Originally Posted by
Labze
Lets start on the protein intake matter. I might not need as much protein as i take, but thats what fit my macros with my current diet. I am not your average lifter no, i take it above hobby level. I am close to 80 kg of lean mass at 171cm. Protein intake is a highly debatable, some says 1.2 gram per kg is enough, other says 2,5g. If one is more correct than the other i cannot say, but my diet is as it is and its planned by a danish expert who has helped several danish national bodybuilding champions.
Besides i never said i can't eat to match my needs, i just say i plan my supplements around my needs. I find it hard to probrably discuss this with you if you aren't a lifter yourself. Of course supplements would be a waste for you if you have no intentions on packing on muscle, so why even go there. Supplements just gives oppurtunities to optimize nutitrition that cant be done, or atleast wouldnt be convinient with regular foods. Besides, supplements such as creatine arent just possible to get through your foods in the amounts you need, BCAAs not possible. Beta-alanine, not possible either. Should we begin to say that caffeine is a waste of money as well?
I had the glucose wrong, but still stand by my statement. It's nothing to worry about, especially when consuming his proteins with most likely a ratio of 3:1 (carbs/protein). There are several reasons to why he get his pimples, im still putting my money on the gainer because of the sugars. I know some people get pimples from normal whey as well and it can be caused by lots of stuff, but i doubt in many cases its the blood glucose level.
I hope i haven't insulted you, thats in no way your intention, however it seems like you lash out after me. Its not cool being called a liar, neither is it good for you to tell me to learn biology when in the same paragraph there are several errors, most the last.
"Though really I merely said that it was converted to fat if not used, so unless he was attempting to become fat for some reason, using protein powders in excess which can merely mean taking them when you don't need to, can cause weight gain unless on a low carb/calorie diets because the body has no real way to store the excess efficiently."
Not all relating to being incorrect, but i would assume the reason he uses a gainer is to take on weight which is required in order to build muscle. So yes, hes most likely building up some fat as well. Using protein powders in excess does not form fat, i have no idea where you have this from. Whey acts like any other thing you would consume, no different. The only time fat would be stored is if he drank a shake or two which put him in a calorie surplus. But the exact same thing would happen if he ate a beef, drank some milk, or had a soda. So what your saying is straight wrong.