I have to say as an Alliance player, that just sounds like whining. Just because they kind of win doesn't mean we lose. They're still worse off for ever having had Garrosh as their leader. Think about it for a minute. Think about how many of the young orcs support Garrosh. Then think about how Garrosh will most likely turn them all into sha creatures. A huge chunk of the orc population is going to be mutated/killed in that raid on Orgrimmar. If it plays out the way I believe it will the horde will get fucked even if they are helping kill Garrosh. Garrosh supporting orcs are a big chunk of the horde's manpower.