Such as this. Yes...the logistics behind 10s are easier than 25. So what? That doesn't mean players loathe the format in and of itself.1. Most guilds prefer 10-man raiding, ONLY because it is superior (in a general way) to 25-man - no other reason.
-Wrong. Most guilds prefer 10-man raiding out of pure opportunism and ....entropy. Less energy is required to run a 10-man guild - therefore (due to entropy) most guilds settle in them. If blizz introduced 6-man raiding, i'm pretty sure everyone would do them and some people - viciously defend them.
Put simply, if everyone who claimed to prefer 25 actually did 25s, then the logistics issues wouldn't exist to anywhere near the degree they do now. You claim entropy? Players had to get up and make an effort to create 10 man guilds; entropy would have had them remain where they were - in 25s - taking advantage of the loot system and the fact raid leaders did most of the work.
Most players prefer 10 man raids because most players don't give a hoot about about format. They want to raid, to see the content, to play with friends, to get gear for their characters. 10s give them all that. 25s don't. 25s require they raid with people who aren't on their friends list. It requires them to spend time and effort on the logistics aspect many players don't care about. And since Cata, 25s don't offer them extra loot as a bribe to put up with that.
The only reason most players had for 25s was because the aim of the game is gear acquisition for character progression and 25s provided that gear.
25s came into being with TBC. 10s were around in Vanilla.2. 10-man raiding is the essence of WoW raiding.
-Wrong. 10-man raiding is only a recent game mechanic. For the most part of WoW's history there has been larger than 10-man raiding (25-man and 40-man).
Yes. But you want BOTH setups to be viable. More, you want both setups run by players who want to run that setup without being coerced into doing so.3. 10-man raiding is in danger if the status quo is changed - therefore nothing should be changed.
-Hypocrisy. 25-man raiding is currently extinct. Aren't they entitled to having the same concern (according to most 10-man proponents, they aren't)
Trouble is..25s don't have that. They offer everything 10s do...but require you raid with people you probably view as colleagues of guildies instead of friends, they require additional logistical effort many players aren't interested in (causing that to often fall onto fewer shoulders with a corresponding fall in players interested in leading such groups) and they require greater coordination out of raid meaning it is more awkward and time consuming to actually arrange it.
Actually, they are. They have every advantage going. 25s will require some degree of artificial support in order to bribe/entice players to actually run them. That can't really be said for 10s. About the one thing 10s have against them is that raids need to be designed around 25 mans and so, as a result, 10s can lose that epic feel in some cases. Even then, that's only for some players and some raids; lots of open space also gives rise to a sense of scale.So yeah, I think 10-man proponents are way out of their league here. They are not in position to be so pretentions.