Imagine if it was designed without flying mounts. Imagine what could be implemented if they didn't exist. There would be plenty of changes to the game to accommodate this change.
There is nothing that flying mounts provide beyond convenience and emotional attachment. Nothing. Yet if they were removed, we'd gain so much more.
If you don't want to fly... don't fly?
Man, I've got bags under my eyes... BAGS OF MONEY!
See ya later, peasants.
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MoP basically nullifies your argument though. It was designed with areas you could only reach through flying and you couldn't fly until max level. This was the case with TBC too.
Wish flying mounts had never been introduced, so I'm onboard. Won't mean anything though, there far too many people that started after BC/WOTLK compared to Vanilla.
I say alts, because the main obviously wouldn't get the flight paths learnt automatically. Or hey, there's the idea: make flight paths account wide. One character learns them, then all characters on that account know the flight paths.
That's a very simple change I thought of within a minute, but I'm sure there's more you can do to accommodate a flightless world.
Again, recycled arguments. "Because conveniences are there, not choosing them is no option.". It's just untrue, and it doesn't even barely support the argument.
These are arguments used against several things that Blizzard has implemented in WoW over the course of every expac. In short, these arguments have existed since early vanilla and they've never been more than hyperbole or fallacies since day one and I'm getting progressively more sick of seeing them in threads like these. (similiar threads being "REMOVE LFR" or "REMOVE LFD")
Also, I'm a roleplayer, which requires immersion. You really can't tell me that just because I don't think flying mounts are a bad thing, I've forgotten the 'world' bit in World of Warcraft.
Conveniences are there to stay. If your self-control is so sloppy that you can't prioritize your so-proclaimed 'fun' and 'excitement' over the convenient or easy way, that's your problem; not mine, not LFR Petey, not Flying Mount Ficaro or anyone else's problem.
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The current world is designed with flying mounts in mind, yes. Of course. There are currently places only accessible via flying. But those are easily rectified: make a teleporter than takes you to the necessary place, or do what the Shieldwall dailies do and give you a taxi service with an NPC. Something like that.
However, with the world being designed with flying mounts in mind, we're losing so much more. Atmosphere, mystery, danger, etc. Anything a flying mount provides can also be provided by a taxi, or some other technical design choice. However, the simple existence of flying mounts means we miss out on so much that makes (or should make) an MMORPG what it is. A massive world to explore, inhabited by people to interact with. Not flying over everything and ignoring everyone else.
You have no idea how many people had wanted flying in Azeroth for years. When the trailer was released live for Cataclysm and it said 'flying in Azeroth', it actually got a loud cheer. Now that's not exactly much to go on, but I do know that I had seen many threads over the years of people wanting to be able to fly. And people say Blizzard never listens to us. Yeesh. lol. Keep it as is. The game has changed far too much over the years. The simplicity of the game ended after BC. Now people expect crazy features and convenience more than ever before.
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No way! Those that want to fly, let them fly. Those that don't, use your ground mounts. I don't see why flying mounts should be removed just because some people don't like them. There is a choice, use them or don't.
Even this small of a sample size has to tell you that the majority has spoken. Nobody cares that you don't want to fly. The rest of us want to. If you don't want to fly, park your ass on the ground yourself and walk. We're not stopping you.
Don't use your mount if it hurts you so much. I never saw the need in my life, including 30 years as a freelance programmer working all over England, to ever drive a car, but I never wanted to stop other people driving if that is what they wanted to throw their money at
Also it is a game not a religion where you worship the designers work
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Flying mounts are nothing like that. If LFR and LFD didn't exist, the numbers of people raiding/doing dungeons would plummet, because the entry requirements for normal (and especially heroic) raids are far beyond what the majority of the WoW playerbase can reasonably achieve. If Flying mounts didn't exist, we'd all take a little bit longer to get anywhere. Oh noes. But what we gain instead vastly outweighs that con.
The current system has you landbound while levelling when it is important, you get all the atmosphere and mystery already.
Once you reach the level cap you are able to fly, and suddenly the world opens up. Pandaria is massive on the ground and fairly compact from the air, combining convenience and stunning visual design.
I experienced no lack of mystery and atmosphere with this expansion and have absolutely no complaints. I would be very annoyed if Flying Mounts were removed once they had already perfected the system.