No Upgrades for 5.2 Items, 5.2 Transmog Changes, Blue Tweets, Setup of the Month

[Immitis]

Ok reading Ghostcrawlers tweets here I am terrible confused, is he saying no upgrading at all in 5.2 even for 5.1 gear or just no upgrading on 5.2 gear only?

it seems what hes saying is that in 5.2 none of the gear from the thunder king raid or from the new factions will be upgradable until 5.3

he could mean ALL gear but it doesnt seem like it

[Aluminum]

And for the transmog changes: making blade of wizardry will drop the value of teebu's blazing longsword... FU

KEK :grin:

I've been buying these up for supercheep for the last year, ever since we had the slightest hint transmog would get updates. I got some for 1-2k even!
I have to "thank" blizzard for not making ANY useful caster swords since 4.3 (besides crappy greens) its helped keep the prices extra low.

Its better than teebus in another important way as well: doesn't show enchants!
Teebus looks absolutely amazing with a couple enchants (the colors blend) but most make it look dumb, including all the ones people actually use now.

If they ever add transmog control on enchants though...my dk and paladin are going to be super happy.

[Vital]

Good decision, upgrades are really bad for PvP

[tgrhwke]

"Polearms cannot be transmogrified into other two handed weapons." FML
Ive wanted to use polearms for my DK for ages, but noooooo ><

The Bronzed Spear comes in Agility and Strength versions.

http://www.wowhead.com/item=82056

[Lemonpartyfan]

The mage QQ is sustaining me! MUAHAHAAHAHA.

[Ulgrim]

No DK questions?

[TroyN]

Having a new LFR every tier is a way to make catchup slower. This is by design, they have said they want you to work your way up to current content. 489 VP upgrades will still get you closer to T15 LFR, I can't see the ilvl requirement being much higher than 480.

Well, you'd be wrong. It's 486 for LFR on PTR, which while being only 6 ilvl higher, is actually much more than that considering LFR gear stops at 483. So even with a full set of LFR (I doubt hardly anyone has every slot covered by LFR at the moment), would still be 3 ilvl short. With only options being VP gear, which may not even give a full ilvl at that point, the 2 496 pieces from Sha, or super expensive gear.

[Lushious]

Bummer, I really liked the upgrade system :-/ Gave more choice as to how to spend your VP, and a chance for Melee classes who have bad luck to at least upgrade their 463 weapons to amlost LFR MSV level.

So much whining about the transmog changes, just be happy there is any changes at all They'll almost certainly release other restrictions over time, I'm just glad my Rogue well be able to use http://www.wowhead.com/item=24361 and http://www.wowhead.com/item=40336

[NatePsychotic]

Wait, why are Legendary Main-hands listed in that list of weapons that still remain main-hand? Non main-hand legendaries are 'moggable now or something?

[Granyala]

please, pass huge regards to the art department for the priest T15 set. Looks amazing.
After so many sets, it impresses the hell out of us that they keep coming up with great new looks.

Uhuh.. erm.. ok. Tastes differ, I guess...

BTW: instead of listing what cannot be mogged, list what can be mogged. Much more useful.

[Runeweaver]

Bah, no swords to daggers and vice-versa. Also would've loved to be able to have used Wraith Strike for transmog >_< I'd also love Polearms to be converted into Staves but w.e.
Least there is an improvement I suppose.
Secondly, woah woah woah! Val'anyr converted to One Hand? I forsee legendary transmogrification!

[Mr. Smith]

So my Blood Tempered Ranseur is still going to be rotting in Void Storage?
Dayum shame.

[Staticus]

Upgrades are a far better system than nerfs that get bigger over time...it gives us something to spend our VP on, it speeds up other things outside of the current raid (farming, hc's etc.), it leaves the difficulty curve intact between tiers (so we don't get bosses that are easier than those from earlier tiers like in Cata) and it has to be earned (by getting VP) rather than just switched on automatically for everyone at the same time.

I hope they keep it, and turn it on halfway through the tier like they did with this one.

The KEY to making ilvl system work as a catch up mechanic is that best gear in the game (heroic raiding gear and best PVP gear can NOT be upgraded - or at least very limited compared to other gear.

If they did that, there'd be no point in getting the heroic gear as you could just upgrade normal gear to the same ilvl. (at least when we have different raid instances or bosses in the same tier with different ilvls)

Wait, why are Legendary Main-hands listed in that list of weapons that still remain main-hand? Non main-hand legendaries are 'moggable now or something?

Legendaries have always been un-moggable regardless of slot.

[Duster505]

If they did that, there'd be no point in getting the heroic gear as you could just upgrade normal gear to the same ilvl. (at least when we have different raid instances or bosses in the same tier with different ilvls)

And? Do guilds that have cleared heroic content need to upgrade their gear by extra 8 ilvls so that BLizzard needs to overtune the next tier even more ? You do realise that then they will need to nerf it over time anyway cause those 0.1% that have the best possible gear at the start of new tier will be demanding some challenge that others will never be able to do?

Again - IF gear upgrades are a catch up mechanic then they should not be upgrading best gear. And in terms of PVP its not a catch up mechanic at all so PVP and PVE gear will have different ilvls if they remove it from PVP to balance it.

PVP is not just Arena or rated battlegrounds. If Blizzard wants to have really good WORLD pvp then increasing the gear gap so the gankers can have more fun is not a solution. It will just push more ppl away and right now CRZ are already causing so much anit-social behavior cause ppl think they can do whatever to ppl on other severs.

[Ezzet]

I still don't get why legendary's cant be mogged. I wanna use my shadowmourne/HoR/thunderfury.. but no.

[joppas]

upgrade system is just stupid, please remove it and never let it return.

[Korgesh]

Why does blizzard always use drastic numbers for buffs and nerfs? Why can't they just use a middle number that's slightly more satisfactory for both sides? Like why so you always have to buff by 10 or 20 why not just a 6 or a 7 or a 14 and an 18 I'm sure it would have less OP impact.

[Miykul]

What exactly is that guy talking about with quivers in 5.2? Is he playing the right game or am I out of the loop

[grexly75]

What exactly is that guy talking about with quivers in 5.2? Is he playing the right game or am I out of the loop

Lol just read the tweets seems they are wanting the look of having a quiver and animations of having a quiver.

[Aizele]

Come back down to Earth. With how many abilities each class has and with how many classes we have it's impressive just how balanced this game is. And never have they ever claimed they haven't had classes unbalanced, you're either insane or just don't care about lying your ass off.
You dare claim Blizzard has never admitted to an overpowered class? Wake the hell up.

There are such obvious fixes to the game though, that can easily be fixed.

---------- Post added 2013-01-07 at 01:38 PM ----------

I don't know how but people actually manage to make "feedback" tweets worse than official forum posts. Way to go guys.


The more people that think WLK was the best expansion that leave, the better.

best expansion is personal opinion, you tool.