The big question of prostitution

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There's no real argument against it being legal, IMO. Most people against it will say that it victimizes people, but that's what it being illegal does. Prostitutes are left with no legal recourse when they are stiffed, assaulted or otherwise victimized during the practice of their trade. Furthermore, illegality prevents any sort of regulation that would aid in the safety and quality of the trade.

Making it legal would open it up to legitimate employers who would help the trade become safer.

I mean, sure, it being illegal probably reduces the incidence of it, but I'd rather have a much safer market of prostitution instead of trying to reduce that market by some amount.

[Windfury]

It's legal here in some circumstances here (official licensed brothels), but is so hung around with excessively onerous operating fees and charges most workers still do it illegally.

It's ridiculous to have it be illegal, it's far less safe for everyone and basically invites the involvement of organised crime in the industry (sex slaves and so on).

[derpkitteh]

it's illegal here, but if government regulated, i think it should be made legal. i don't see a reason for it not to be legal if the government takes complete control over it. the way it is right now though, run by terrible people that do horrible things, that should certainly be illegal.

[lzsg]

What Bergtau said, basically. In Sweden it's not illegal to sell sex but it is illegal to buy it, which of course makes prostitution impossible without a crime being committed. It's laid out this way to protect the prostitutes and give them incentive to get help when they're abused etc. Still, I see no reason why it shouldn't be completely legal as long as it's regulated. It's a service provided for payment, nothing else. I don't understand why there's such a taboo on it just because it's selling sex - especially since people are (and have been for a long time) selling sex in so many other forms without it being illegal in the least.

[Ryuukon]

There is no reason for it not to be legal and well regulated, to help increase the safety for all involved.

There are no moral reasons to prevent it from being legal without attempting to force your personal morality upon other people in areas where what they do has no impact upon you.

Then you need to educate yourself.

It takes between 8 days and 2 weeks (at the VERY LEAST) to test semi-accurately for AIDs after contracting it, depending on testing method, and that's a MINIMUM! It generally takes MUCH longer to make absolutely sure the subject if infected or not.

Yet during that time, the prostitute is making a living, even if it means infecting their customers.

Why do you think prostitution was made illegal to begin with? It might have been for the bible thumpers at one point in time, but now it's to protect the populace from STDs. It's not going to 100% stop STDs, but considering many prostitutes will have 10+ "johns" in a day... You'll need an algorithm to figure out how infectious a prostitute is going back through their past sexual history.

It's illegal for a reason. Keep it illegal. If you wanna fuck a whore, take yourself out of the general gene pool then and spare the rest of the population your multi-generational STDs.

[Waniou]

Then you need to educate yourself.

It takes between 8 days and 2 weeks (at the VERY LEAST) to test semi-accurately for AIDs after contracting it, depending on testing method, and that's a MINIMUM! It generally takes MUCH longer to make absolutely sure the subject if infected or not.

Yet during that time, the prostitute is making a living, even if it means infecting their customers.

Why do you think prostitution was made illegal to begin with? It might have been for the bible thumpers at one point in time, but now it's to protect the populace from STDs. It's not going to 100% stop STDs, but considering many prostitutes will have 10+ "johns" in a day... You'll need an algorithm to figure out how infectious a prostitute is going back through their past sexual history.

It's illegal for a reason. Keep it illegal. If you wanna fuck a whore, take yourself out of the general gene pool then and spare the rest of the population your multi-generational STDs.

Good thing condoms haven't been invented at all :P

[TooMuch]

Then you need to educate yourself.

It takes between 8 days and 2 weeks (at the VERY LEAST) to test semi-accurately for AIDs after contracting it, depending on testing method, and that's a MINIMUM! It generally takes MUCH longer to make absolutely sure the subject if infected or not.

Yet during that time, the prostitute is making a living, even if it means infecting their customers.

Why do you think prostitution was made illegal to begin with? It might have been for the bible thumpers at one point in time, but now it's to protect the populace from STDs. It's not going to 100% stop STDs, but considering many prostitutes will have 10+ "johns" in a day... You'll need an algorithm to figure out how infectious a prostitute is going back through their past sexual history.

It's illegal for a reason. Keep it illegal. If you wanna fuck a whore, take yourself out of the general gene pool then and spare the rest of the population your multi-generational STDs.

You must be kidding or not informed: most prostitutes won't do anything WITHOUT protection.

[obdigore]

Then you need to educate yourself.

It takes between 8 days and 2 weeks (at the VERY LEAST) to test semi-accurately for AIDs after contracting it, depending on testing method, and that's a MINIMUM! It generally takes MUCH longer to make absolutely sure the subject if infected or not.

Yet during that time, the prostitute is making a living, even if it means infecting their customers.

Why do you think prostitution was made illegal to begin with? It might have been for the bible thumpers at one point in time, but now it's to protect the populace from STDs. It's not going to 100% stop STDs, but considering many prostitutes will have 10+ "johns" in a day... You'll need an algorithm to figure out how infectious a prostitute is going back through their past sexual history.

It's illegal for a reason. Keep it illegal. If you wanna fuck a whore, take yourself out of the general gene pool then and spare the rest of the population your multi-generational STDs.

Because streetwalkers that are drugged up and owned by pimps are totally not passing diseases around at a greater rate than a woman who has a place of her own and is making ok money and uses condoms and can turn people away and actually get STD tests, right?

[Deleted]

Then you need to educate yourself.

It takes between 8 days and 2 weeks (at the VERY LEAST) to test semi-accurately for AIDs after contracting it, depending on testing method, and that's a MINIMUM! It generally takes MUCH longer to make absolutely sure the subject if infected or not.

Yet during that time, the prostitute is making a living, even if it means infecting their customers.

Why do you think prostitution was made illegal to begin with? It might have been for the bible thumpers at one point in time, but now it's to protect the populace from STDs. It's not going to 100% stop STDs, but considering many prostitutes will have 10+ "johns" in a day... You'll need an algorithm to figure out how infectious a prostitute is going back through their past sexual history.

It's illegal for a reason. Keep it illegal. If you wanna fuck a whore, take yourself out of the general gene pool then and spare the rest of the population your multi-generational STDs.

I'm pretty sure if not 100% it's damn close to all prostitutes insist on wearing protection (you know, condoms). That kind of blows your argument out of the water to be honest, and if people are fucking prostitutes WITHOUT wearing condoms they deserve to catch what ever is going...

[Dezerte]

Legal and well regulated.

[Windfury]

Then you need to educate yourself.

It takes between 8 days and 2 weeks (at the VERY LEAST) to test semi-accurately for AIDs after contracting it, depending on testing method, and that's a MINIMUM! It generally takes MUCH longer to make absolutely sure the subject if infected or not.

Yet during that time, the prostitute is making a living, even if it means infecting their customers.

Why do you think prostitution was made illegal to begin with? It might have been for the bible thumpers at one point in time, but now it's to protect the populace from STDs. It's not going to 100% stop STDs, but considering many prostitutes will have 10+ "johns" in a day... You'll need an algorithm to figure out how infectious a prostitute is going back through their past sexual history.

It's illegal for a reason. Keep it illegal. If you wanna fuck a whore, take yourself out of the general gene pool then and spare the rest of the population your multi-generational STDs.

How exactly does having them work illegally stop STIs?

At least legal workers have to be regularly tested and so on.

[Ron Burgundy]

im all for prostitution

[Deleted]

It should be legal, then you can stick a VAT mark-up on the service price, the girls and guys selling themselves can be registered with the government as licensed practitioners, so it minimises the danger of pimps being involved and they can be kept track of making it easier to notice if/when they go missing, schemes can be taken on to give prostitutes the incentive to practice safe sex and avoid STDs, say by offering government approved certificates saying they are all clear of STDs etc, something they can put on the wall of their boudoir which could boost their business if clients feel it is safer to visit them over other prostitutes.

There are so many benefits to everyone involved (and not, through tax revenue) if prostitution is made legal and regulated like any other business practice and I can see no benefits to making it illegal beyond peace of mind for prudes.

[Raiju]

Had to butt in, I LOOOOOOOOOOOOVE SVU.

Well I love Law and Order in general. I remember growing up watching it!

[Shâréz]

If they regulated it, yes you would know if its "legit" or sex slaves. Right now you certainly dont know if the prostitute you're seeing is a sex slave or not because thye dont feel safe tlaking about it due to risk of arrest. Most people would probably rather use a legit place anyways from a safety and disease free point of view.

again, REGULATION is the key here.

Didn't watch that video - so not sure if it's said in there... however:

It is highly regulated in The Netherlands, there are a lot of inspections and the police is right around the corner for the prostitutes should they ever need them.

A lot of women from all around Europe come to The Netherlands because it's legal, clean and regulated here. But there are also far too many women from all around Europe who did not come here voluntarily and are being exploited by pimps.

[Deleted]

No, sex is gross!

This biggest issue with prostitution is that its makes adultery (cheating on someone you are married with) very easy. All sorts of fun in divorce proceedings. Also the world has a problem with sex slaves. Legal prostitution would make it easier.

It would make it harder, because you can focus the prostitution in 1 district so it can be regulated and controlled.
And if someone wants to mess up their marriage, then that marriage might 've not been worth it anyway.

And I hope you where joking with "sex is gross"

[Vuljatar]

Absolutely legal, even streetwalking. Why the hell not? Personal rights/responsibilities, the prostitutes know the dangers involved in their profession and the johns know the dangers involved in being a customer.

[Deleted]

prostitution like some drugs would be better legalised. Safer for all involved and a boon to the government in revenue raised via taxation. Problem is it goes against 'traditional family values' so noones ever gonna push for it

[Lora]

It's not legal where I am, though I think it should be. If you want to pay for sex or sell yourself for sex then go for it but make sure to be safe. The way to get around it right now is to just ask if you can record having sex and distribute it as porn.

[ddsad2212]

There is no LOGICAL reason, that I have seen on this thread that is against it so far. I can only see positives here, porn is legal and that is having sex for a living so why not prostitution? If you are good at something no point not making a living off it