they banned me once, i appealed and was unbanned in less than 30 mins because it was a mistake
they are lax on banning, if they won't unban you after a petition, they have proof you did something they have to ban you for
on the other hand, they know that 75% of all banned accounts turn into new accounts and that makes their quarterly conference call sound good
if they can ban 30,000 and get 20-25,000 back, that's 50-55,000 subs they get to claim
i don't know what really happened but if i had to put money on it, you cheated and got caught. if i'm wrong, you know it and it sucks but i never will
none of us will so you really shouldn't take it to heart if your appeal falls on deaf ears
people are just usually full of shit
Why on earth would you mill a stack of herbs, only to vendor it? Seems kind of counter productive and stupid.
I call BS on your story. I understand some idiots might have done this on accident, but I don't at all believe that you weren't intentionally exploiting.
gjeez there is many morons in here.
What he did is in no way an exploit. He got disconnected. he rejoined and continued playing.
Seriously look up the word exploit.
Exploit - Defines to take adavantage of something (a person, situation, etc.), especially unethically or unjustifly for one's own end. How is disconnecting yourself giving you any kind of advantages ?
if he sold a item for 20k gold. then did it. kept the money and got the item back. yeah. then its an exploit
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Oh and to add context to what I was saying, Blizzard was in the wrong for originally banning the TC's account (if all of the facts are true)...and they were in the right to lift the ban.
I find it hard to believe the majority of people would DC themselves for "fun"
This statement right here, going on about it how "innocent" you were makes me think your telling a lie, if it was generally mucking around, you'd of worded it like, "Did it to try, it dc'd me" then carried on, but not write that much about it,Many people like me, just DCed themself, or was told by a friend to try it for fun to DC themselves, or literally was jsut curious if you COULD disconnect yourself. Many people had no intention of duping, or malicious intent, or exploiting the economy or it's server.
Anyways, as Im pretty sure blizzard said, they mass banned the account and went through each one to find out who generally was exploiting to the extreme, who did it to make a little extra gold, and those who generally stumbled upon it,
Im more than willing to guess you had a temp ban, and thats what they were saying no to up lifting, and I'm pretty sure you probably tried contacting them over email not phone, could be wrong but I dont think so
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Thanks for the advice on being a good moderator. I'm well aware of grey areas and think about them constantly here. If you think about it, it's the grey areas that actually cause the most difficulties. I may not see something as breaking a rule while someone else does. That's really the nature of grey areas in any sort of environment. However, this isn't the place to discuss that.
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The cake is now an alternative fact.
Check out this guy bragging on a public board about how much real money he did with this exploit:
Sure anyone who breaks the game rules deserves some punishment, especially if it slows down the process of finding out those who did real damage and got personal gain, many of those will probably get away with it because they do it "professionally". Still, people who are interested in bugs out of curiosity without causing any harm, and people who want to exploit them for own advantage are completely different groups.
Here is the reason. Blizzard is big... they are also very efficient regarding GM and CS staff. They macro everything... As soon as this exploit was mentioned anywhere, I knew Blizzard was finding a way to catch everyone automatically. No, they weren´t going to send a GM to invistigate.. it was going to be programmed... wide net style.
If someone tells you an exploit, trust me, Blizzard already knows of it and is either figuring out how to auto-detect or, or already auto-detecting it. Unless you are doing it professionally ( like gold-farmers) you simply are not going to be ahead of Blizzard on exploits.
Also, the real benefit of this exploit was not actual duping, it was to bypass cds... and most of the people were using it on darkmoon faire cards. Do you know how easy it would be for Blizzard to calculate the max number of scrolls of wisdom you could have possible created (what, maybe 120 by now) and then count how many actual cards someone has created? If you have created 500 darkmoon cards, you exploited.
I am also sure Blizzard already keeps an eye on whenever smoeone logs in 30 times in an hour.
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exploiters got banned, the community is better for it.
But grats on getting the account back. People want to believe Blizzard is unreasonable, but usually when they give out a ban its for the right reason. Though, it can be exploited... (My friend hacked someone elses account and sent me the gold from it, even though I didn't want/ask for it, but I still got a 3 day ban.) So if you want to ban someone else yourself, just do what was said in my parenthesis lol. But it'll come at the cost of you getting banned as well.
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The cake is now an alternative fact.
All these people calling for harsh punishments seem to ignore the fact that the Blizzard policy on exploits is totally convoluted. How about the twink 80 paladins soloing lvl 90 raid bosses? Oh yeah they won't declare that an exploit or fix it, but who knows maybe they will just ban all accounts with level 80 paladins at some point.
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guise i wuz juss curious n wanted 2 try duping 2 see if it wurked n it did n now im teh banned.
No offence to OP but no wonder they won't unban people that easy, hell I bet 90% of those who get banned will make similar appeal saying "it wasn't me it was the other guy!!11". Go ahead and try to guess who's guilty and who's not then.
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