View Poll Results: What should we do about it, if anything?

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  • Conservative: Double down and don't give in to the liberal media.

    15 27.27%
  • Conservative: Kick out the pro-lifers, but draw the line there and make our stand.

    5 9.09%
  • Conservative: Kick out all of the factions, without exception.

    1 1.82%
  • Conservative: Other (please state in reply)

    2 3.64%
  • Liberal: If I were you, I'd double down and not give in to the liberal media.

    5 9.09%
  • Liberal: If I were you I'd kick out the pro-lifers and draw the line there.

    8 14.55%
  • Liberal: If I were you I'd kick out all of the factions without exception.

    6 10.91%
  • Liberal: If I were you, I'd do something else entirely (please state in reply).

    13 23.64%
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanjori View Post
    The only reason to deny Iranians nuke would be you feel Americans are superior to Iranians.
    Or if you feel their government is less responsible.
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    Look Batman really isn't an accurate source by any means
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    It is a fact, not just something I made up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanjori View Post
    The only reason to deny Iranians nuke would be you feel Americans are superior to Iranians.
    I wouldn't say superior - just less likely to use it.

    ---------- Post added 2013-01-11 at 03:58 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    What makes iranians different from americans?
    Citizenship.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swazi Spring View Post
    It shows a trend since 1995 that shows pro-life becoming more and more popular, whereas abortion has become less and less popular.
    Give me a recent study and I'll be inclined to believe your theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokan View Post
    I would ask for evidence of this bribery, but I suppose this line of discussion was exhausted before the election.
    Low-information voters want free stuff, so they voted for the candidate who promised them free stuff.
    Quote Originally Posted by RICH8472 View Post
    Nakura Chambers make ME look like a pacifist with all of his war threads.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grummgug View Post
    Socialism is a form of subjugation. The United States, via Hollywood, is glorifying socialism and feeding it to the European masses as a form of subjugation. We got sick and tired of Europe fighting World Wars. This is how we put a stop to it. We turn Europe into American colonies by making them think socialism is the superior political system.

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    I'm all for the destruction of the republican party, if it can't reform as the new libertarian party. If it does manage to die as it is, the only thing that will remain is the Democrat (Fascist) party. I gurantee when given the choice of pro liberty, anti war, anti tax anti spending, itll beat the pro-war, pro-spending, pro-tax, anti liberty administration we have today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chry View Post
    Give me a recent study and I'll be inclined to believe your theory.
    http://www.gallup.com/poll/1576/abortion.aspx



    So again. Reality > Swazi.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    Everyone is pro-US. They just don't know it yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fyre View Post
    Internet lives in the sky, don't need no cables for that.
    A nice list of logical fallacies. In picture form!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalyyn View Post
    Same with gun control. I'll argue in favor of unrestricted firearms for everyone until dawn on here, but really I'll be happy if I can just keep what I have now. And I don't want to ever have to use my guns on another person. I just don't want want to have my rifle taken away because it was a gift from my dad. And I don't want certain parts of it outlawed either, because it's an absolutely beautiful weapon and defacing it would be a crime in itself.
    I absolutely agree with you 100%. I may wish to further gun rights, but I will be content if they remain the same indefinitely. Even if that means not being able to defend myself on college campuses.
    Quote Originally Posted by RICH8472 View Post
    Nakura Chambers make ME look like a pacifist with all of his war threads.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grummgug View Post
    Socialism is a form of subjugation. The United States, via Hollywood, is glorifying socialism and feeding it to the European masses as a form of subjugation. We got sick and tired of Europe fighting World Wars. This is how we put a stop to it. We turn Europe into American colonies by making them think socialism is the superior political system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swazi Spring View Post
    Low-information voters want free stuff, so they voted for the candidate who promised them free stuff.
    I asked for evidence.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    how can you call pro life a conservative value? it seeks to expand government control over people's lives.
    I'm on the fence with abortion, but I think the argument against it stems from the idea that abortion kills children, thus violating the rights of the child.
    Quote Originally Posted by RICH8472 View Post
    Nakura Chambers make ME look like a pacifist with all of his war threads.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grummgug View Post
    Socialism is a form of subjugation. The United States, via Hollywood, is glorifying socialism and feeding it to the European masses as a form of subjugation. We got sick and tired of Europe fighting World Wars. This is how we put a stop to it. We turn Europe into American colonies by making them think socialism is the superior political system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanjori View Post
    The only reason to deny Iranians nuke would be you feel Americans are superior to Iranians.
    God dammit, this is why I knew I shouldn't get involved...

    No. Iran is a country with interests in direct contrast with those of America. The American government's duty is not to maintain equality among nations, but to do everything in its power to benefit the American people. All else is secondary. To end what will likely be the next argument before it starts; hypocrisy, as a concept, is entirely irrelevant in global politics. No nation on Earth gives a single fuck about fairness towards others. They act only upon what their own best interests are. To survive, America must act in this way as well. Iran having nuclear weapons is not in America's best interests. Therefore, America's best course of action is to prevent such a thing, through whatever means are deemed reasonable. This goes not just for Iran, but for all nations who would act against America and threaten it's position in the world. Superiority has nothing to do with it. America does what's best for America, Iran does what's best for Iran. If these two actions conflict, then the outcome will be decided by the more powerful entity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    So you have no problem with Iran having nukes?
    They can build them, but America has the right to attack them in self-defense if Iran poses a threat.
    Quote Originally Posted by RICH8472 View Post
    Nakura Chambers make ME look like a pacifist with all of his war threads.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grummgug View Post
    Socialism is a form of subjugation. The United States, via Hollywood, is glorifying socialism and feeding it to the European masses as a form of subjugation. We got sick and tired of Europe fighting World Wars. This is how we put a stop to it. We turn Europe into American colonies by making them think socialism is the superior political system.

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    People listening to Rush Limbaugh need to realize that they're just sheep in the herd. That guy made what? 65 million in 2010? Of course he wants to say radical things. People love some good drama and some radical shit they can copy pasta into their arguments. He gets paid! Most likely his personal views are far from as radical as his on air personality. He's a character. And he gets paid well for it. He would be nuts to stop cashing in on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeglo View Post
    America is a democary.

    The majority wins.

    There's nothing you can do to win unless the majority agrees with your views.


    I think a lot people would vote conservatively if the Republican party wasn't such a joke lately, taken over my far-left nuts.
    Wrong. America is a constitutional republic.
    Quote Originally Posted by RICH8472 View Post
    Nakura Chambers make ME look like a pacifist with all of his war threads.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grummgug View Post
    Socialism is a form of subjugation. The United States, via Hollywood, is glorifying socialism and feeding it to the European masses as a form of subjugation. We got sick and tired of Europe fighting World Wars. This is how we put a stop to it. We turn Europe into American colonies by making them think socialism is the superior political system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalyyn View Post
    God dammit, this is why I knew I shouldn't get involved...

    No. Iran is a country with interests in direct contrast with those of America. The American government's duty is not to maintain equality among nations, but to do everything in its power to benefit the American people. All else is secondary. To end what will likely be the next argument before it starts; hypocrisy, as a concept, is entirely irrelevant in global politics. No nation on Earth gives a single fuck about fairness towards others. They act only upon what their own best interests are. To survive, America must act in this way as well. Iran having nuclear weapons is not in America's best interests. Therefore, America's best course of action is to prevent such a thing, through whatever means are deemed reasonable. This goes not just for Iran, but for all nations who would act against America and threaten it's position in the world. Superiority has nothing to do with it. America does what's best for America, Iran does what's best for Iran. If these two actions conflict, then the outcome will be decided by the more powerful entity.
    Not to survive. To dominate. You would survive just fine without.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raybourne View Post
    What makes iranians different from americans?
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    Citizenship.[/QUOTE]

    Catta hit the nail on the head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swazi Spring View Post
    Wrong. America is a constitutional republic.
    And England is a constitutional monarchy. Doesn't mean jack.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swazi Spring View Post
    Low-information voters want free stuff, so they voted for the candidate who promised them free stuff.
    I love this new conservative labeling of people as "low information voters," even though study after study shows viewers of fox news to be less informed than people who watch no news at all.

    I'd rather have "low information" than the wrong information.
    It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalyyn View Post
    God dammit, this is why I knew I shouldn't get involved...

    No. Iran is a country with interests in direct contrast with those of America. The American government's duty is not to maintain equality among nations, but to do everything in its power to benefit the American people. All else is secondary. To end what will likely be the next argument before it starts; hypocrisy, as a concept, is entirely irrelevant in global politics. No nation on Earth gives a single fuck about fairness towards others. They act only upon what their own best interests are. To survive, America must act in this way as well. Iran having nuclear weapons is not in America's best interests. Therefore, America's best course of action is to prevent such a thing, through whatever means are deemed reasonable. This goes not just for Iran, but for all nations who would act against America and threaten it's position in the world. Superiority has nothing to do with it. America does what's best for America, Iran does what's best for Iran. If these two actions conflict, then the outcome will be decided by the more powerful entity.
    This is fine. But, if this is the case as I am sure it is for most nations, then you do not get to cloak your politics in the rhetoric of "inalienable human rights" which Swazi's very academic and very first-person-pronoun-heavy essay does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokan View Post
    Pretty sure that was debunked?
    It was somewhat debunked. The program does exist, but it wasn't started under Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by RICH8472 View Post
    Nakura Chambers make ME look like a pacifist with all of his war threads.
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    Socialism is a form of subjugation. The United States, via Hollywood, is glorifying socialism and feeding it to the European masses as a form of subjugation. We got sick and tired of Europe fighting World Wars. This is how we put a stop to it. We turn Europe into American colonies by making them think socialism is the superior political system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cattaclysmic View Post
    Not to survive. To dominate. You would survive just fine without.
    Without acting towards our own best interests? Maybe for awhile, but being indifferent or actively working against our own interests would kill us eventually.

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