Fix My DK DPS v1 - Thread broken, see v2 in the stickies

[Impzor]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...ce=13&fight=14

My dps has improved a bit compared to last week, and also picked Necrotic Plague after the blood boil nerf. Still I feel I could do much better. Twin Ogron was probably one of my better tries though, but you can look at the other bosses, where I'm doing a lot worse, especially on single target fights. Of course it's partially a gear issue, but even when I look at my item level range I'm still quite low in the rankings.

[shadowslayerdragon]

Armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...%A3ns/advanced
Spec: Unholy
Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...-done&source=1
Question: I cant help but feel my numbers are way lower than what they COULD be, but i dont know what im doing wrong (except maybe bad soul reaper usage?)

[Skul]

Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...er/Skul/simple
Spec: Unholy
World of Logs:
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/i...?s=4337&e=4741 - Mythic Twins + Early heroics
http://www.worldoflogs.com/reports/0...um/damageDone/ - Full Heroic clear

Question (BE VERY SPECIFIC): I seem to be struggling to keep up with my Mythic team as of late DPS wise. I have dropped from doing top 5 dps at the start of the raid tier to slowly but surely going lower and lower. Gear upgrades (non weapon) seem to have a very nil effect on my performance DPS. My DPS seems to have stagnated and I am worried that at this rate as others match gear and learn fights my DPS ranking is going to drop very low (I tend to be a much quicker learner than others and as such have a strong grip on the fight and thus perform better early on, which I am now losing).

What is wrong with my DPS in general? Is my up-time low? I KNOW my gearing is piss-poor right now as I did not craft gear and reroll into M&M secondaries. I am realizing now as I pick up whatever the raid drops that this might have been a big mistake (or does it not mean much?). I have attempted to match my spell usage to other DKs ranking and such in logs and I just do not have the knowledge / understanding to see what is such a huge difference.

How should I proceed from here in order to start seeing improvement? Would re-gearing to BOEs with M&M make a difference?

Anyone able to take a look at mine from Pre-nerf BB days?

[Iomproirbais]

Armory:www wow-heroes.com/character/us/Proudmoore/Iompr%C3%B3irb%C3%A1is/
Spec: 2H Frost / Unholy
World of Logs: www warcraftlogs.com/reports/XRBZ3qr7x9MtKQ81/ (as Unholy, tried a different spec because couldnt get my dps up as Frost)
Question (BE VERY SPECIFIC): a week ago with slightly less gear I was pulling 22-24k dps no problem in either normal or heroic Highmaul, after the patch my dps tanked to where I struggled to get it to 17k in either. I re-worked some gear, (upgraded crafted and re-rolled stats) and manage about 19-20k on a good pull, but with the Ilvl i have and gear i have I feel that i should be much higher. i'm seeing DK's with less gear pull bigger numbers and i'm completely lost and confused as to why i'm so low. with my only other option being to just bench the character all together and focus more on my pally or hunter i'm turning to asking for help ... any advise is welcome!

Site wont let me post links, so just remove the spaces between the www and the wow / warcraft and add the dot.
Thanks.

[Deleted]

Armory:www wow-heroes.com/character/us/Proudmoore/Iompr%C3%B3irb%C3%A1is/
Spec: 2H Frost / Unholy
World of Logs: www warcraftlogs.com/reports/XRBZ3qr7x9MtKQ81/ (as Unholy, tried a different spec because couldnt get my dps up as Frost)
Question (BE VERY SPECIFIC): a week ago with slightly less gear I was pulling 22-24k dps no problem in either normal or heroic Highmaul, after the patch my dps tanked to where I struggled to get it to 17k in either. I re-worked some gear, (upgraded crafted and re-rolled stats) and manage about 19-20k on a good pull, but with the Ilvl i have and gear i have I feel that i should be much higher. i'm seeing DK's with less gear pull bigger numbers and i'm completely lost and confused as to why i'm so low. with my only other option being to just bench the character all together and focus more on my pally or hunter i'm turning to asking for help ... any advise is welcome!

Site wont let me post links, so just remove the spaces between the www and the wow / warcraft and add the dot.
Thanks.

A few things you could improve on:
- If you're going with defile you should try and use it as much as possible
- You should ONLY use plague strike if your dots are running out and Outbreak is on CD. (You used plague strike 49 times).
- You could have used 4 gargoyles (10min fight) instead of 2.
- Dark transformation uptime seems strange. You didn't DT untill the last half of the fight?
- You only used plague leech twice.
- You didn't use soul reaper at all (use < 45%).

I hope you got some information out of the above.

[Drugshock]

Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...shock/advanced

Spec: Unholy

World of Logs:
- Yesterday’s (some bosses in Heroic): https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...AwGQdt#fight=2
- Last week, HC Butcher: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ywBTGJRX9rjbp4Lh

Question: Pretty sure I could improve a lot that damage without some useless AOE scumbag. Any tips appreciated. PS: Tanks still move a bit more than needed, so trying out UB/NP in some bosses

[Septik]

Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte.../Septik/simple
Spec: DW Frost (not by choice, no luck with heroic 2h drop yet)
World of Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/guilds/2182
Question (BE VERY SPECIFIC): So i posted logs for the month of jan. my dps seems lacking on most if not all fights but my main concern is on heroic Imp. i cannot break 20k on this fight to save my life to the point where i was benched right before the guilds first kill, which is a super shitty feeling.

Just last night i got my 2nd heroic cleaver, 30 ilvl upgrade for offhand, didnt seem to make much differnce although the h:imp attempts last night i did not have razorice on the new offhand, its on there now. There are a few things i know im bad at like over using plague strike (yet my bloodplague uptime is still horrid, 60% range). Obliterate, all of DW in mop oblit was like forbidden, so i was a little surprised when i found out that i need to be using it to burn unholy runes (and proc rime which is good), Blood tap is something im just getting used to managing and there was only a couple times last night where i went 'oh shit' and had 12 stacks up for longer than i should have. And im sure i could use soul reaper more regularly during execute (which i think we got to that range twice last night).

I know there is alot of down time on this boss running around, knockbacks or if i get branded it holds me back a bit, but sub 20k? Can anyone see where i am going wrong on this fight (or in general)?

Searching Wowprogress for another DW dk to compare logs to, but honestly it seems like the top200+ that ive looked at are all 2h. I'd really like to be 2h but 3 kills and 3 coins on Ko' has yielded me gold and the 1 mace that dropped went to the ret pally.

Ive gone as far as to install CLCDk and a weakauras string for rotation, they dont seem to change much.

Im not the best player in the world, but i sure as shit feel like im better than a bench warming clicker, to be sat on a heroic boss makes me cringe to think of how much time ill be sat out in mythic for the same reason.

Be brutal, i can take it, as long as it points me in the right direction

[luizofoca]

Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...ticus/advanced
Spec: frost 2h
World of Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...1&type=summary (yesterday)
Question (BE VERY SPECIFIC): Need advice to improve my dps simcraft says i sould at least do 28k and im doing 24k~25k in less moviment fights or with more targets like Tectus.
Another thing is how can i improve my dps in fights like Ko'ragh with lots of movements.

thank you.

[cRawmode]

Armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/character/frostwolf/Crawx/ (as DPS I have Scabbard / Bottle
Spec: UH
World of Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...done&source=16
Question (BE VERY SPECIFIC): When I look at other top parsed they tend to have nearly the same ability usage and breakdown. Somehow I still do 2-3k less DPS than top 10 parses and I wonder what I am doing that much wrong that I only parse that low. I couldn't find big mistakes in my playstyle so I am reliant on you guys to give me feedback to get better. As of the kill I didn't have 685 hands (660 pvp ones) and no 685 bracers (only 670 ones).

Is this a killtime issue? I know if the kill would be 10-20 sec shorter my dps would go up accordingly. But I want to know if I am doing something significantly wrong.

Thank you.

[jellyfrog]

Armory: http://us.battle.net/wow/en/characte...shock/advanced

Spec: Unholy

World of Logs:
- Yesterday’s (some bosses in Heroic): https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...AwGQdt#fight=2
- Last week, HC Butcher: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ywBTGJRX9rjbp4Lh

Question: Pretty sure I could improve a lot that damage without some useless AOE scumbag. Any tips appreciated. PS: Tanks still move a bit more than needed, so trying out UB/NP in some bosses

Can't see much wrong to be honest, you miss a few Soul Reapers so make sure you are pooling runes during execute phase to ensure you can SR on CD, remember to use ERW as this is a nice burst gain and I know you stated your reasons for using NP but still overall it's a loss so better off using Defile and getting to grips with proper Plague Leech usage as your Kargath logs show you only used it once.

Just a few minor things to tidy up and you should be good to go.

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Armory: http://eu.battle.net/wow/character/frostwolf/Crawx/ (as DPS I have Scabbard / Bottle
Spec: UH
World of Logs: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports...done&source=16
Question (BE VERY SPECIFIC): When I look at other top parsed they tend to have nearly the same ability usage and breakdown. Somehow I still do 2-3k less DPS than top 10 parses and I wonder what I am doing that much wrong that I only parse that low. I couldn't find big mistakes in my playstyle so I am reliant on you guys to give me feedback to get better. As of the kill I didn't have 685 hands (660 pvp ones) and no 685 bracers (only 670 ones).

Is this a killtime issue? I know if the kill would be 10-20 sec shorter my dps would go up accordingly. But I want to know if I am doing something significantly wrong.

Thank you.

The only obvious thing is your disease uptime, you let them both fall off for a little while and only have a total of 87% uptime when you should be pushing for around 96%~ with Plague Leech factored in.

Also, a top 10 parse is likely a good RNG pull.

[cRawmode]

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The only obvious thing is your disease uptime, you let them both fall off for a little while and only have a total of 87% uptime when you should be pushing for around 96%~ with Plague Leech factored in.

Also, a top 10 parse is likely a good RNG pull.

Thank you for taking your time to look at my log. Yes, when I am overwhelmed with exhausting runes and then using PL for more runes I sometimes (during trinkets / pots / CDs) try to get the runes out of the way and keep using SS and did not refresh my diseases. I guess that's a very bad habit of mine.

I guess Tectus' Trinket is really good for short fights. I wonder why some guys have such a high Crit % (sometimes in the 30s) on SS while mine is often sitting only around 10% with 18% Crit unbuffed. That RNG sucks.

[jellyfrog]

Thank you for taking your time to look at my log. Yes, when I am overwhelmed with exhausting runes and then using PL for more runes I sometimes (during trinkets / pots / CDs) try to get the runes out of the way and keep using SS and did not refresh my diseases. I guess that's a very bad habit of mine.

I guess Tectus' Trinket is really good for short fights. I wonder why some guys have such a high Crit % (sometimes in the 30s) on SS while mine is often sitting only around 10% with 18% Crit unbuffed. That RNG sucks.

No problem, we all have kinks in our playstyle I'm sure. I've got a number of top 10/20 heroic parses but I make plenty of mistakes too. It's always good that someone ranking very near the top is still looking to improve.

[Drugshock]

Can't see much wrong to be honest, you miss a few Soul Reapers so make sure you are pooling runes during execute phase to ensure you can SR on CD, remember to use ERW as this is a nice burst gain and I know you stated your reasons for using NP but still overall it's a loss so better off using Defile and getting to grips with proper Plague Leech usage as your Kargath logs show you only used it once.

Just a few minor things to tidy up and you should be good to go.

Thanks sir. Gonna work on that. Trying out some ways to make our tanks stay on my Defile on Mythic Twin (progressing). Will prolly delay some casts till they stand still (before or after pulverizes/fire. They love fire. And our Prot Warrior loves Heroic Leaping 93283928 yards away from us melee ROFL).

[Axphyxiate]

Looks like we have a few posts to get through :P

Impzor

Had a look at your Twin Ogron logs, I noticed that you only used 1 potion. You should use a 2nd potion with your 2nd Gargoyle. Your uptime on Necrotic Plague looks very good. You should be able to get a few more soul reapers in there. There are a few times in the fight where you go 20+ seconds without a Blood Tap. Not sure if you were storing them or if you were capping them? Just be careful that you're not wasting stacks. You also capped your runic power a fair few times throughout the fight, obviously wasted RP is bad :P Do you Army before the pull? Don't see the damage from it in the logs, its not a lot but its a free ~75k damage. If you use army around 7 seconds on your pull timer all of your runes will have regenerated by the time you pull so you don't lose anything by using Army.

Shadowslayerdragon

In your Butcher log you didn't use a 2nd potion, use it with your 2nd gargoyle. Your death would account for a lot of damage loss, before you died you were at 31k dps, this would have gone up with more soul reapers. I noticed your Dark Transformation uptime was 54%, I'm assuming that you don't actively pool Runic Power as DT is about to end. I'd suggest trying to store some runic power as DT gets close to finishing so that you can get a quick 2-3 stacks of Shadow Infusion up straight away and keep your DT up more over the course of the fight. You also capped RP a couple times in the fight but it was only for a few seconds so I don't think you wasted any RP.

Skul

There's not much point looking at logs from pre-BB nerf days, chances are any tips we give you will be irrelevant seeing as the threshold to use BB is different not and it's now optimal to use UB and NP in certain situations. If you upload logs post BB nerf we can have a look at those and hopefully give some more relevant feedback.

Hatebox

Looking at Butcher logs; Dark Transformation uptime could be higher if you pool RP towards the end of it. You only used Plague Leech three times. Soul Reaper uptime could be higher, it's worth saving a rune for SR, you can also use Plague Leech if you have no runes for SR as well. Try to use your 2nd potion with your 2nd Gargoyle, although it can be hard to tell whether or not you'll actually get a 2nd gargoyle on Butcher sometimes.

Septik

Looks like you got a 2H weapon, if you link some logs for the coming week I'd be happy to look at them and see how you're going with 2H. I will point out that your main stat is now multistrike so you should change your enchants/gems accordingly. Also you're missing a ring enchant. Glyph of Outbreak is kinda pointless, I'd recommend taking Glyph of Regenerative magic, Glyph of Blood Boil and Glyph of Empowerment. You can replace Glyph of Blood Boil with Raise Ally or something else if there's no spread out aoe on a specific fight.

Also it's somewhat irrelevant now but DW Frost is a fairly weak spec right now, it only really becomes competitive on sustained aoe fights, it'd be good for last phase of tectus if you push 2 motes at the same time or if you're allowed to aoe the adds in intermission on Imperator, but that's about it. It also gets better with stacked mastery afaik and atm it's pretty hard to get well itemized gear.

luizofoca

You should be using Multistrike gems and enchants. Your armory shows you using Plague Leech and Necrotic Plague. You want to be using Unholy Blight and Necrotic Plague for 2-3 target fights otherwise stick with PL and Defile.

There really isn't much downtime on a fight like Kargath. When he does his fixate you can still follow him behind and use Death's Advance to keep up when he gets faster. The knockback he does is only 2-3 seconds of time where you're out of melee range, you can use PL here and reapply diseases with outbreak or you can use Howling Blast as you run back in. You might be able to immune the knockback if you have Pillar of Frost up, haven't tried. Also to compete with other DK's dps you really have to maximise your dps when you're up in the stands. While you're up there use gorefiend's grasp to group the adds up and then drop a defile and spam howling blast as much as possible. Having Pillar of Frost up in the stands will also help your dps but depending on how long you have to save it it might not be worth it. You didn't use Pillar of Frost on the pull on Kargath, you only got 2 Pillars in a 3min 27sec fight.

Moving onto Butcher, you should be using your 2nd potion with Pillar of Frost. Also using 2nd potion + Pillar during Heroism is ideal. Your Soul Reaper usage is very low. SR should be your top priority when the boss is under 45%, you can also pre-cast SR at around 46-47% assuming the boss will drop below 45% in the next 5 seconds. You capped Runic Power a few times in the fight, not sure if you actually wasted any runic power but just be careful. You can also use Plague Leech more.

cRawmode

Your disease uptime looks a bit low at 87%. Soul Reaper usage is good but could maybe be a tiny bit higher. You should try pooling Runic Power towards the end of Dark Transformation to get Shadow Infusion stacks up asap. It should increase your DT uptime by ~10%. Also in your opener you start with Outbreak, Gargoyle, Scabbard, Blood Fury, SS, FeS, SS, FeS, DC, SS, DC, Def. That's fine however I'd recommend replacing either the 1st or 2nd SS with Defile, even if you're using the water strat on Butcher he should be positioned and stationary by the time you go to use your first SS. It might not make much of a difference but it may increase your defile uptime or let you get another defile in? Idk, nitpicking here. Otherwise everything else looks good, you're not that far behind where you should be.

[542568]

Armory:us battle.net/wow/en/character/kiljaeden/Theodoorbad/simple
Spec:Frost 2Hand
World of Logs:www warcraftlogs.com/reports/bwpRz9cg3ChFyHj4/
Question (BE VERY SPECIFIC):What type of set up should I be using like talents and glyphs. Also if i have a proc of killing spree is it better to use a frost rune of the obliterate or use a soul reaper (boss is below 35%) Any help would be greatly appreciated Thanks

[Deleted]

Tried to improve some stuff this week and ending up doing less damage across the board. Fairly sure I'm missing something or getting it wrong. Any help would be appeciated!

Armoury: eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/emerald-dream/Jsy/advanced
Spec: Unholy
Logs: warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/1006354/latest

[Clipp]

Sorry if I missed this but if I'm running UB/NP am I still in a m&m build

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Forgot to say unholy

[luizofoca]

Looks like we have a few posts to get through :P

luizofoca

You should be using Multistrike gems and enchants. Your armory shows you using Plague Leech and Necrotic Plague. You want to be using Unholy Blight and Necrotic Plague for 2-3 target fights otherwise stick with PL and Defile.

There really isn't much downtime on a fight like Kargath. When he does his fixate you can still follow him behind and use Death's Advance to keep up when he gets faster. The knockback he does is only 2-3 seconds of time where you're out of melee range, you can use PL here and reapply diseases with outbreak or you can use Howling Blast as you run back in. You might be able to immune the knockback if you have Pillar of Frost up, haven't tried. Also to compete with other DK's dps you really have to maximise your dps when you're up in the stands. While you're up there use gorefiend's grasp to group the adds up and then drop a defile and spam howling blast as much as possible. Having Pillar of Frost up in the stands will also help your dps but depending on how long you have to save it it might not be worth it. You didn't use Pillar of Frost on the pull on Kargath, you only got 2 Pillars in a 3min 27sec fight.

Moving onto Butcher, you should be using your 2nd potion with Pillar of Frost. Also using 2nd potion + Pillar during Heroism is ideal. Your Soul Reaper usage is very low. SR should be your top priority when the boss is under 45%, you can also pre-cast SR at around 46-47% assuming the boss will drop below 45% in the next 5 seconds. You capped Runic Power a few times in the fight, not sure if you actually wasted any runic power but just be careful. You can also use Plague Leech more.

thanks for the tips, about the necrotic plague i changed after the run this week so i didint tested this build.
and for the gems and enchants i used the tips from simcraft and askmrrobot. they said it was best to use haste gems and enchants and not multistrike for a 2h frost.

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i Can't post any link...

Some help plz ?

[Deleted]

write the link out like w w w . worldoflogs . c o m

or something similar.