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  1. #1841
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    Well, that's one way to shrug off plain misogyny - just say he doesn't really mean it.
    Didn't really mean that females in the animal kingdom often choose their male mates by which wins in a fight, is more colorful, stronger, bigger etc?
    Quote Originally Posted by Horizon View Post
    Stupid! New things are always much better then the old things...
    New Star wars > old Star wars (crappy special effects anyone lol!)
    Justine Beiber > the beatles (shitty copycats music lol!)
    Twilligt > dracula, do I even need to comment loooool
    yea its probably nostalgia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonpartyfan View Post
    Didn't really mean that females in the animal kingdom often choose their male mates by which wins in a fight, is more colorful, stronger, bigger etc?
    If you're not willing to condemn someone saying "all women had to do is be there and have a uterus", it says a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DisposableHero View Post
    The difference is women are suffering the consequences of their own choices, not someone else's choices.

    Thank you for using the correct acronym this time.
    Really? Men don't make any choices that lead to having a child?

    Are men just really stupid?
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    Everyone is pro-US. They just don't know it yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fyre View Post
    Internet lives in the sky, don't need no cables for that.
    A nice list of logical fallacies. In picture form!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    If you're not willing to condemn someone saying "all women had to do is be there and have a uterus", it says a lot.
    I do think he exaggerated it in a way that wasn't cool. I wouldn't say it like he did.
    Quote Originally Posted by Horizon View Post
    Stupid! New things are always much better then the old things...
    New Star wars > old Star wars (crappy special effects anyone lol!)
    Justine Beiber > the beatles (shitty copycats music lol!)
    Twilligt > dracula, do I even need to comment loooool
    yea its probably nostalgia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonpartyfan View Post
    II wouldn't say it like he did.
    But you basically think the same thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Really? Men don't make any choices that lead to having a child?

    Are men just really stupid?
    So you're saying that everyone who has sex (even with protection) are making a conscious choice to have a kid?

    No, they're doing something with a vanishingly small risk of impregnation, which can be cancelled by the woman.

    Just like when I jump in my car I'm not making a choice to have myself killed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    But you basically think the same thing?
    That females in many animal kingdoms choose mates based on bright colors, strength, fighting ability? Do you disagree with what I said? If you can really warp what I am saying to somehow think I hate women, then you must agree that a certain someone in this thread is a full fledged man hater.
    Quote Originally Posted by Horizon View Post
    Stupid! New things are always much better then the old things...
    New Star wars > old Star wars (crappy special effects anyone lol!)
    Justine Beiber > the beatles (shitty copycats music lol!)
    Twilligt > dracula, do I even need to comment loooool
    yea its probably nostalgia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonpartyfan View Post
    That females in many animal kingdoms choose mates based on bright colors, strength, fighting ability? Do you disagree with what I said? If you can really warp what I am saying to somehow think I hate women, then you must agree that a certain someone in this thread is a full fledged man hater.
    What the fuck do peacocks have to do with his comment?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    What the fuck do peacocks have to do with his comment?
    You now just asked what I thought, why are you now cursing at me about his comment?
    Quote Originally Posted by Horizon View Post
    Stupid! New things are always much better then the old things...
    New Star wars > old Star wars (crappy special effects anyone lol!)
    Justine Beiber > the beatles (shitty copycats music lol!)
    Twilligt > dracula, do I even need to comment loooool
    yea its probably nostalgia

  10. #1850
    Quote Originally Posted by Lemonpartyfan View Post
    You now just asked what I thought, why are you now cursing at me about his comment?
    His comment was about women. You're babbling about the rest of the animal kingdom. Usually, when someone says, "I wouldn't have said it that way", it means that they had the same idea, but think it was framed poorly. Do you agree with his statement, but just dislike the phrasing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    His comment was about women. You're babbling about the rest of the animal kingdom. Usually, when someone says, "I wouldn't have said it that way", it means that they had the same idea, but think it was framed poorly. Do you agree with his statement, but just dislike the phrasing?
    You asked me what I thought and I shared it. If this is the question you meant, say it next time.

    I have no idea what he really meant. I just felt like that was what he was referring to in an over and under exaggerating way. No, I do not think women are birthing machines, and I think child birthing is one of the hardest things a human can go through.

    Again, if you think I have a hidden dislike for women, you cannot then disagree that SOMEONE in this thread is a raging man hater.
    Quote Originally Posted by Horizon View Post
    Stupid! New things are always much better then the old things...
    New Star wars > old Star wars (crappy special effects anyone lol!)
    Justine Beiber > the beatles (shitty copycats music lol!)
    Twilligt > dracula, do I even need to comment loooool
    yea its probably nostalgia

  12. #1852
    Quote Originally Posted by Spectral View Post
    Well, that's one way to shrug off plain misogyny - just say he doesn't really mean it.


    This woman explains it 1000 times better then i ever could, im just a dumb man after all. It starts at 12:22.
    Last edited by Cybran; 2013-01-21 at 09:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diurdi View Post
    So you're saying that everyone who has sex (even with protection) are making a conscious choice to have a kid?

    No, they're doing something with a vanishingly small risk of impregnation, which can be cancelled by the woman.

    Just like when I jump in my car I'm not making a choice to have myself killed.
    They're choosing to partake in an activity they know can result in a pregnancy and child. You can't just declare you don't want to deal with consequences you know were a possibility of an activity you elected to partake in.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nixx View Post
    Everyone is pro-US. They just don't know it yet.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fyre View Post
    Internet lives in the sky, don't need no cables for that.
    A nice list of logical fallacies. In picture form!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybran View Post


    This woman explains it 1000 times better then i ever could, im just a dumb man after all. It starts at 12:22.
    Thats such a harsh video. I have seen it before, and its not popular at all with the hardcore feminists of youtube.

    Yeah, she does seem to articulate and form sentences better than you...

    Off topic, I like her speaking voice.
    Quote Originally Posted by Horizon View Post
    Stupid! New things are always much better then the old things...
    New Star wars > old Star wars (crappy special effects anyone lol!)
    Justine Beiber > the beatles (shitty copycats music lol!)
    Twilligt > dracula, do I even need to comment loooool
    yea its probably nostalgia

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wells View Post
    Really? Men don't make any choices that lead to having a child?

    Are men just really stupid?
    Did you read what I was replying to? She was talking about women suffering when they get an abortion or give birth. Guess they shouldn't have gotten pregnant. You seem to be fond of that particular piece of advice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jayp View Post
    No it doesnt. Its more worriyng then just cheating.
    For example a guy cheats, knocks up a girl, has baby, his current partner finds out, and leaves him problem solved.
    Women cheats, gets pregnant, has baby, lies to current partner its his, now has him or his financial support for 18years even if he leaves her.

    This is not about the petty argument of cheating. This is if such a high % of women would lie about these major things (if the survey is true). Which is much more serious because if the guy doesnt get a dna test, he is fucked for 18years. weigh it up.

    Funny thing is that it would probably be cheaper for the male to set up an assasination than pay the child support here in Sweden as well.


    (just saying)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgaith View Post
    Funny thing is that it would probably be cheaper for the male to set up an assasination than pay the child support here in Sweden as well.


    (just saying)
    Someone from sweden said that there were a few cases of beating women for asking for child support, murdering women and that he had sex when he was 13... Da fuck Sweden?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DisposableHero View Post
    Did you read what I was replying to? She was talking about women suffering when they get an abortion or give birth. Guess they shouldn't have gotten pregnant. You seem to be fond of that particular piece of advice.
    And you said that the difference between that and men having to pay child support is "They're not suffering because of their own choices."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybran View Post
    Someone from sweden said that there were a few cases of beating women for asking for child support, murdering women and that he had sex when he was 13... Da fuck Sweden?
    Not sure what's happening over here imo, but we have our priorities wrong, in this case too much socialism can be bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morgaith View Post
    Not sure what's happening over here imo, but we have our priorities wrong, in this case too much socialism can be bad.
    How the hell does that even relate to socialism?
    It's like saying goats eating being fed rhododendron is socialism's fault. :S

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