Nah, it was never a reasonable conversation but it has become interesting with the occasional circle back now and again. I am waiting to hear a guy come and tell at what point they began to feel disposable and unneeded. There is a whole group of men that feel they have no place in this world because now women have moved into the roles that traditionally was part of the shaping force behind the male "identity". If they feel that women and to a certain extent society, does not need them as protectors, providers, fathers, or husbands what are they needed as? Nothing more than a sperm donor or a slave to the whim of the women around them.
I want to know!