Obama Exercises Executive Actions

[NineSpine]

So turning the dollar into toilet paper isnt a happening problem?

No, inflation is remarkably low.

[Chrysia]

I haven't been afforded the time to catch up to the thread... I started reading when it was about 20 pages long already... sorry some of us actually have to work for a living AND make time for other pursuits.... I'm catching up... I'll get there.

It's simple. Form an opinion, then post. Don't pan people for their opinion when you are unaware of the source of that opinion.

[vindicatorx]

Whats that? you approve of 350,000+ abortions a year, but you get all weepy eyed over a handful of grade schoolers... you DO realize that those 350,000+ a year you approve of eliminating would have been the grade schoolers 6-7 years from now, right?

I'm completely ok with those abortions that's a personal choice made by those women that shooting took away children who were loved and wanted to suggest that it's ok as long as abortions are ok is completely asinine.

[Seranthor]

Someone claimed the EO's were infringing on gun rights. I corrected them. What's the problem?

Why haven't you formed an opinion? What's your first impression?

my first impression is that I dont yet see a problem with them, so far, but as I've said, I'm still catching up in the thread then I'll return to the EOs and give them a fair reading, seems unfair to offer an opinion on them without fully reading them.

[Priestiality]

Than it's a moot point and you are wasting everyone's time.

1.) Try to make point.

2.) Get proven wrong.

3.) Try to twist words to give hidden subtext where there wasn't any.

4.) When that fails, call point moot because it's better than admitting being wrong.

[Ansem]

but but those were the days when we were number one. Yeah, at least you could make sense of what he wrote.

were we not bankrupt until 1933? So Trillions in debt with less taxes is better. Explain

[Mormolyce]

I was merely pointing out that a large part of the reason Hitler was ABLE to have such lax gun laws was due to the fact that anyone that wasn't "down" with him was shipped off to die a horrible death.

So... you're saying fascist dictators DON'T need gun control because of their very nature as fascist dictators? Okay.

Don't forget that part of Hitler's whole massive appeal to the German people was essentially the way he "re-armed" Germany by eliminating the restrictions placed on it after Versailles. And the volkisch movement that gave rise to the Nazi party was an angry mob of armed citizens. And Nazi ideology encouraged "masculine" activities like gun sports, partly due to its whole macho image and partly because that helped to train young men for military life in Nazi armed forces. To say Hitler was in favour of domestic gun control goes against the grain of his entire character, origin and ideology. And that of the Nazi movement in general.

[vindicatorx]

So turning the dollar into toilet paper isnt a happening problem?

I'm sorry what does this have to do with gun control?

[NineSpine]

Were you losing sleep for the hundreds murdered in poor, urban areas? Or did you only become outraged when it was suburban white kids getting shot?

Does your dumb question relate to anything substantive?

[Chrysia]

Were you losing sleep for the hundreds murdered in poor, urban areas? Or did you only become outraged when it was suburban white kids getting shot?

I actually was, thanks for asking.

By-the-by, the victims weren't exclusively white.

[Underverse]

were we not bankrupt until 1933? So Trillions in debt with less taxes is better. Explain

eh, capitalism. But hey, you didn't want socialism, so deal with it

[vindicatorx]

were we not bankrupt until 1933? So Trillions in debt with less taxes is better. Explain

You do realize who we owe the majority of those trillions to don't you?

[Priestiality]

So... you're saying fascist dictators DON'T need gun control because of their very nature as fascist dictators? Okay.

Don't forget that part of Hitler's whole massive appeal to the German people was essentially the way he "re-armed" Germany by eliminating the restrictions placed on it after Versailles. And the volkisch movement that gave rise to the Nazi party was an angry mob of armed citizens. And Nazi ideology encouraged "masculine" activities like gun sports, partly due to its whole macho image and partly because that helped to train young men for military life in Nazi armed forces. To say Hitler was in favour of domestic gun control goes against the grain of his entire character, origin and ideology. And that of the Nazi movement in general.

No, I'm saying it's not a problem to arm the populace when anyone that doesn't support the leadership is put to death.

[NineSpine]

1.) Try to make point.

2.) Get proven wrong.

3.) Try to twist words to give hidden subtext where there wasn't any.

4.) When that fails, call point moot because it's better than admitting being wrong.

1. I said that magazine size makes a difference.

2. You said that someone could reload quickly anyway and provided a single circumstance to justify it.

3. I pointed out that this is not indicative of every situation.

4. You started flailing.

Yes, someone here certainly doesn't want to admit being wrong.

[Sky High]

Whats that? you approve of 350,000+ abortions a year, but you get all weepy eyed over a handful of grade schoolers... you DO realize that those 350,000+ a year you approve of eliminating would have been the grade schoolers 6-7 years from now, right?

THEY AREN'T PEOPLE. they are a ball of DNA that will be a person. keep comparing what equates to a parasite to an actual person. no one here is taking you seriously.

[Kraenen]

No, I'm saying it's not a problem to arm the populace when anyone that doesn't support the leadership is put to death.

then why are you so worried about tyrrany in the US?

[lockedout]

You do realize who we owe the majority of those trillions to don't you?

China of course.

[NineSpine]

were we not bankrupt until 1933? So Trillions in debt with less taxes is better. Explain

The US government has been in debt from the day it was created until today, with the exception of one year in the 1830s. Paying off the debt at that point actually crashed the economy, because government debt gives currency value.

---------- Post added 2013-01-17 at 01:03 AM ----------

China of course.

Wrong. Try again.

[Seranthor]

No, but the gun living, anti-government nuts are actually a substantial part of the Republican base. They actually wield power in the party. By contrast, the liberal establishment shuns and ridicules it's radical elements.

Really, you shun and ridicule them? I'm calling bullshit on that.

[Priestiality]

Does your dumb question relate to anything substantive?

Yes. Chicago, as has been pointed out numerous times, has incredibly strict gun control laws, and yet has one of the highest if not the highest gun murder rate in the United States. This isn't a recent development. It's been a problem in major urban centers for DECADES. Detroit, Chicago, Miami, New York, Los Angeles. All have had both good and bad times in regards to gun murders, but for the most part it's safe to say that in any of those cities AT LEAST one person will be killed by a gun per day. No one was on TV making a big deal out of that. Why? Because it was only effecting poor, (mostly) non-whites. Suddenly it's all over the news with calls for strict gun control if not outright bans (just because they likely won't pass the House doesn't mean people aren't calling for them) just because it was middle-class, predominately white children this time.