Swiftech H220

[zeq]

Came across the Swiftech H220 while watching a Linus video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZgctchIQ7M) and was impressed at around the 15:30 mark where the all in one cooler is running 1 cpu block and 2 gpu blocks and 3 rads with nice temps with a benchmark program running.

Actual product site: http://www.swiftech.com/H220.aspx

Was wondering what you guys think and for around the $139 mark if anyone else will be picking it up?

[n0cturnal]

Was some discussion about this a few days ago when it was announced and I don't think there are any serious contenders to this cooler at this time.

[Deleted]

Interesting ..... Just watched this too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5mJTGnrNWc

[Fascinate]

Its going to be about on par with a noctua nh-d14 it seems, i still dont see how people can justify spending 100 dollar for 6c difference over something like a 212 evo:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...g,3130-17.html

[n0cturnal]

Its going to be about on par with a noctua nh-d14 it seems, i still dont see how people can justify spending 100 dollar for 6c difference over something like a 212 evo:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...g,3130-17.html

That 6c difference increases the more you overclock your CPU. Sooner or later the Hyper 212 hits the temperature roof while the NH-D14 keeps on going. Also the NH-D14 is a lot more quiet at full speed.

[Fascinate]

That is incorrect, look at that chart. Do you know anyone that pushes more than 1.4 volts on a daily basis?

Also im not comparing the evo to anything, im just saying 100 dollars is a lot to pay for 6c difference (assuming the swiftech is about nh-d14 performance levels, there is a full 100 dollar difference in the two products)

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I just cant believe there is a market for 140.00 dollar coolers, if i was that serious about overclocking and wanted to do benchmarks 24 hours a day i would go with a full liquid cooling setup. For everyday overclocks there is zero reason to spend anything more than a 212+ or evo.

[Deleted]

That is incorrect, look at that chart. Do you know anyone that pushes more than 1.4 volts on a daily basis?

Also im not comparing the evo to anything, im just saying 100 dollars is a lot to pay for 6c difference (assuming the swiftech is about nh-d14 performance levels, there is a full 100 dollar difference in the two products)

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I just cant believe there is a market for 140.00 dollar coolers, if i was that serious about overclocking and wanted to do benchmarks 24 hours a day i would go with a full liquid cooling setup. For everyday overclocks there is zero reason to spend anything more than a 212+ or evo.

Please, you're not paying +$100 for 6 degree difference. You're paying for something unique that can drive a CPU and multiple GPU's (granted you would have to add more tubing), the 6.xW pump is unique, radiator, fans etc. Phe performance is awesome it seems and it can cool all this and be very quiet at the same time. There is absolutely a market for this one and it's more or less plug and play.

[n0cturnal]

That is incorrect, look at that chart. Do you know anyone that pushes more than 1.4 volts on a daily basis?

Also im not comparing the evo to anything, im just saying 100 dollars is a lot to pay for 6c difference (assuming the swiftech is about nh-d14 performance levels, there is a full 100 dollar difference in the two products)

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I just cant believe there is a market for 140.00 dollar coolers, if i was that serious about overclocking and wanted to do benchmarks 24 hours a day i would go with a full liquid cooling setup. For everyday overclocks there is zero reason to spend anything more than a 212+ or evo.

Yes I know plenty of people that push more than 1.4V on a daily basis. The H220 is most likely a bit better than the NH-D14, expect maybe 3 degrees lower temps.

I gladly exchanged my old Hyper 212+ for my current NH-D14 just to get rid of the noise and get some better temperatures. Running the 212+ on anything higher than 60% was might annoying.

Clearly these kind of products aren't aimed at you.

[Fascinate]

Im not arguing the noctua isnt a quality product for a reasonable price, it is. If you read more carefullly im saying the H220 is not at 140 bucks, this is full out liquid cooling numbers.

Also, the hyper 212+ has one of the quiestest full load fans at 2k RPM on the market, i run mine at 100% all the time and it is barely audible. Perhaps you got a dud. The fan on the EVO is quite a bit louder at load than the 212+.

Also, people that run their PC's at 1.4v daily are doing it wrong, you can hit 5ghz stable with less volts than that, not to mention a 5ghz daily rig is simply a poor idea in and of itself.

[DeltrusDisc]

My YouTube sucks right now, loading horribly slow, so I'll have to take your word for it now... that sounds pretty good. Do they have H220s that come with GPU blocks? Because you kind of want to have something cooling the VRAM and mosfets, as well as the PCB itself to some degree. =X

Also, what benchmarking software, do we know?

[Rennadrel]

My YouTube sucks right now, loading horribly slow, so I'll have to take your word for it now... that sounds pretty good. Do they have H220s that come with GPU blocks? Because you kind of want to have something cooling the VRAM and mosfets, as well as the PCB itself to some degree. =X

Also, what benchmarking software, do we know?

No, they do not come with GPU blocks, the pump is built into the CPU block. You have to buy additional GPU blocks, tubing and radiators if you want to expand the cooling system.

[DeltrusDisc]

No, they do not come with GPU blocks, the pump is built into the CPU block. You have to buy additional GPU blocks, tubing and radiators if you want to expand the cooling system.

Ooh. Well, I suppose that's still more expandability than any of the others really offer.

[Deleted]

Im not arguing the noctua isnt a quality product for a reasonable price, it is. If you read more carefullly im saying the H220 is not at 140 bucks, this is full out liquid cooling numbers.

Also, the hyper 212+ has one of the quiestest full load fans at 2k RPM on the market, i run mine at 100% all the time and it is barely audible. Perhaps you got a dud. The fan on the EVO is quite a bit louder at load than the 212+.

Also, people that run their PC's at 1.4v daily are doing it wrong, you can hit 5ghz stable with less volts than that, not to mention a 5ghz daily rig is simply a poor idea in and of itself.

My comment is to the H220

Absolutely no way you're running the CM 212 at 100% and it's "barely audible". Either 100% means something else to you or you have another jet engine next to your system making it inaudible. Look at it this way the H220 is probably the closest you can get right now to get a plag&play "custom loop" for the novice.

[Fascinate]

Notarget.....i wasnt talking to you lol.

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Notarget.....i wasnt talking to you lol.

I'm aware but my comment is to you and I know Noc and I share similar view on this one.

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

Im not arguing the noctua isnt a quality product for a reasonable price, it is. If you read more carefullly im saying the H220 is not at 140 bucks, this is full out liquid cooling numbers.

Also, the hyper 212+ has one of the quiestest full load fans at 2k RPM on the market, i run mine at 100% all the time and it is barely audible. Perhaps you got a dud. The fan on the EVO is quite a bit louder at load than the 212+.

You can get Noctua fans that cool just as well as the ones on the Hyper, but at 1400 RPM lower speeds. And they will be absolutely silent at that speed.

As for the H220...

You can get a CPU loop kit from XSPC with a 280 rad for 160 bucks, that you have to mount, assemble and leak test all by yourself. You get pretty much the same setup, without losing two optical bays and much less harder to install (8 screws, even the fans come pre-mounted) from Swiftech for 140 bucks. It is also expandable, the pump it comes with is more powerful than some dedicated water loop pumps on the market. Suddenly it seems a lot less like a bad deal.

[Fascinate]

I just see no point in this product, sorry.

I appreciate the fact its a sealed liquid cooler from a company that actually makes these type of products, but who is going to spend this kind of money on it? The hardcore people that love doing benchmarks and pushing their rigs to the absolute max likely already have a full on liquid cooled system which will run circles around a pre-filled setup (much larger radiators, hoses, etc).Do you think all of the people who bought corsair H100's are going to drop another 100 bucks (in this case, 140) for a few degree temp drop? 140 bucks is wayyy to much for the average system builder like me, that is why the Hyper 212+ is so popular, we can afford it! My goodness, 140 bucks is almost as much as i paid for my CPU (2500k for 160 bucks at microcenter)

Also, only people that are fairly knowledgeable about PC's even know the name swiftech, while almost everyone has heard of corsair. What swiftech should have done is partnered with MSI/Asus/Gigabyte anything other than swiftech. Its a shame really, this wont sell 1/50th of what H100/H100i has.

[Deleted]

I just see no point in this product, sorry.

You really didn't have to write anything beyond this.

The $140 is more than acceptable for a product like this. There is definitely a market for it. Buttler explained as well so i really don't have to repeat everything. Why in the world would Swiftech develop this to pass it on to Corsair. Your reasoning for not liking it and thinking people won't buy it because you think people already have H100's is just odd.

[DeltrusDisc]

As much as I love Corsair, I'd trust a company like Swiftech for one of these long before Corsair/Antec/etc.

Still, don't think I'll be going for one. Kind of love how my Zalman CNPS 9900 ALED looks. <3

[n0cturnal]

Also, the hyper 212+ has one of the quiestest full load fans at 2k RPM on the market, i run mine at 100% all the time and it is barely audible. Perhaps you got a dud. The fan on the EVO is quite a bit louder at load than the 212+.

You can see in the review you linked that the Hyper is 3db louder.