Subscription predictions for next quarter!

**Pebrocks The Warlock** · 2013-02-03, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Alastaircrawly

people who make their likes work to zealously defend a game, while putting down everyone else are what you call fanboys

And what do you call people who spend everyday on a fansite of a game they no longer play and complain about it in every thread? (not referring to you of coarse)

**Alastaircrawly** · 2013-02-03, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Kangodo

He is not breaking any rules.

The thread is about WoW-subnumbers.
Those numbers are useless in a vacuum: They need to be placed in context.
And if that context is that all competitors have almost no monthly paying subscribers, than WoW is doing extremely well no matter what the new numbers are.
In his last posts he isn't bashing any other game.

Something that is against the rules however, is bashing a user instead of addressing his arguments and discussing moderator-actions.

He was allready warned from a mod to stop trying to make it game vs game he keeps doing just that

**Jtbrig7390** · 2013-02-03, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Kangodo

He is not breaking any rules.

The thread is about WoW-subnumbers.
Those numbers are useless in a vacuum: They need to be placed in context.
And if that context is that all competitors have almost no monthly paying subscribers, than WoW is doing extremely well no matter what the new numbers are.
In his last posts he isn't bashing any other game.

Something that is against the rules however, is bashing a user instead of addressing his arguments and discussing moderator-actions.

He comes into every thread derailing it and repeating himself over and over.

Yes he is breaking the rules this thread was about wow subs not about f2p MMO's and he clearly bashed them just a couple posts ago.

he dose this in nearly every D3/WOW thread and people are tired of seeing it.

**BenBos** · 2013-02-03, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by Huehuecoyotl

it isnt the WoW haters that dont like you BenBos. its everyone. you derail threads posting the same tired lines again and again and again. adding nothing to any discussion you choose to interrupt. please, for the sake of both sides, give it up.

So now we see the REAL reasons why they want to report BENBOS.

Because I annoy some. Btw I have a LOT of PM in my mailbox where fans of the game like my posts.

They too are fed up with the "same dudes" running the usual anti Blizzard show. The 5 names above are always the same. Always the same nagging and trash talk.

And anyone not agreeing is simply bullied around by a bunch of 5 guys and their cat.

ON TOPIC:

Actually, reminding everyone that WOW subscriptions are DIECTLY related to a new FREE to play default mode in the MMO industry is so logical that it doesn't even derserve to be defended.

**Alastaircrawly** · 2013-02-03, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Pebrocks The Warlock

And what do you call people who spend everyday on a fansite of a game they no longer play and complain about it in every thread? (not referring to you of coarse)

I don't know go to a wow only fan site and ask one of them

**Jtbrig7390** · 2013-02-03, 07:30 PM

Originally Posted by Pebrocks The Warlock

And what do you call people who spend everyday on a fansite of a game they no longer play and complain about it in every thread? (not referring to you of coarse)

You do know that people may like Warcraft but not WOW and that there is many things talked about on this site besides wow.

Warcraft was around before wow and people like warcraft so much they may try to stay up to date on the lore and all that is happening in WOW even tho they dislike WOW itself.

**Darsithis** · 2013-02-03, 07:33 PM

Just because you consider something to be against the rules doesn't mean we do. While you're welcome to report any post you feel violates our rules, you're not allowed to derail threads with it. Keep it on topic.

**Jtbrig7390** · 2013-02-03, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by BenBos

So now we see the REAL reasons why they want to report BENBOS.

Because I annoy some. Btw I have a LOT of PM in my mailbox where fans of the game like my posts.

They too are fed up with the "same dudes" running the usual anti Blizzard show. The 5 names above are always the same. Always the same nagging and trash talk.

And anyone not agreeing is simply bullied around by a bunch of 5 guys and their cat.

ON TOPIC:

Actually, reminding everyone that WOW subscriptions are DIECTLY related to a new FREE to play default mode in the MMO industry is so logical that it doesn't even derserve to be defended.

If you got a got of pm's in your mailbox im sure its because people are tired of you coming into every thread about WOW/D3 and bashing every other game that is like them and white knighting wow.

Mods have already told you to stop doing it and yet you keep going. you even derailed this thread that was about wow's subs NOT THE MMO INDUSTRY as many of us have proven to you already.

WOW subs and the MMO industry are two different things.

**Alastaircrawly** · 2013-02-03, 07:33 PM

Ot:

I have a feeling they wont even give out the sub numbers

**Pann** · 2013-02-03, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by Pebrocks The Warlock

And what do you call people who spend everyday on a fansite of a game they no longer play and complain about it in every thread? (not referring to you of coarse)

I know... I know... wait gimme a minute..... Dave? No! John? Tom? What do I win?

**Kangodo** · 2013-02-03, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by Alastaircrawly

He was allready warned from a mod to stop trying to make it game vs game he keeps doing just that

It's not about game VS game.
It's that "WoW has 9 million subs!" is useless information when you don't look at the entire market.
And that is exactly what he was saying: The entire market went F2P or has below 500k subs, so either way they are still doing great.

**Pann** · 2013-02-03, 07:35 PM

Originally Posted by Kangodo

It's not about game VS game.
It's that "WoW has 9 million subs!" is useless information when you don't look at the entire market.
And that is exactly what he was saying: The entire market went F2P or has below 500k subs, so either way they are still doing great.

As far as we know WOW has 10 million subs, keep up.

Ah, so it is not game vs game when you are using WOW's sub numbers to bash other games. Gotcha!

**Kangodo** · 2013-02-03, 07:43 PM

Originally Posted by Pann

As far as we know WOW has 10 million subs, keep up.

Ah, so it is not game vs game when you are using WOW's sub numbers to bash other games. Gotcha!

I know it's 10 million, but I was using the scenario where they lost a million.

I hardly see him bashing other games.
He was actually arguing that the decline in WoW is mostly a byproduct of the entire MMO-market going F2P.

**lakers01** · 2013-02-03, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by Kangodo

I know it's 10 million, but I was using the scenario where they lost a million.

I hardly see him bashing other games.
He was actually arguing that the decline in WoW is mostly a byproduct of the entire MMO-market going F2P.

The haters only want to hear their side of the story. Sort of like fox news listeners.

**Alastaircrawly** · 2013-02-03, 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by lakers01

The haters only want to hear their side of the story. Sort of like fox news listeners.

And the Fanboys want to hear their game is perfect any criticism will be attacked. Seems like a cult and I am not drinking the Kool-aid

**Pann** · 2013-02-03, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Alastaircrawly

And the Fanboys want to hear their game is perfect any criticism will be attacked. Seems like a cult and I am not drinking the Kool-aid

There was no need for him to label me a hater equally there is no need for you sink to that level. You must know by now there are posters who like nothing more that to insight an argument and then report others, you are only giving them ammunition.

**Darsithis** · 2013-02-03, 08:31 PM

I think this has had enough off-topic discussion

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