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    Personal shops feature

    What if there was an option to set a shop for our characters in any time without needing auction house? You will set a price and put it on sale. It will be a direct sale. You won't need to wait for an auction to end or go to an auction house. You will be able to put some advertising on your shop. don't say we should remove auction house but this can be a little feature.

    What would you think about it?

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    how would this ever work? do you know how much space that would take up if every single person had their own shop?
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    What would be the point of it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cenkiss View Post
    You will be able to put some advertising on your shop.
    Advertising only works IRL because each product is different and quantitative quality is ambiguous. This is why companies with excellent advertising can charge 'sheeple' more for their products (eg. iPhones (back when they were $300 w/ contract), Bose speakers).

    In a game, my ore is the exact same as your ore and the differences between items are documented/theorycrafted. There's no reason for shop advertisement in a video game.

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    By advertising i mean you will see some of the things they sell without checking each seller.

    Not just to engage in competition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bladeface View Post
    how would this ever work? do you know how much space that would take up if every single person had their own shop?
    Works perfectly fine in other MMOs with more players per server than WoW, and they even have an offline mode for the shop.

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    What would be the point of it?
    Reading is not one of your strenghtes I suppose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UcanDoSht View Post
    Reading is not one of your strenghtes I suppose.
    I read the OP but the future is pointless and just makes it so you never have to visit cities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bladeface View Post
    how would this ever work? do you know how much space that would take up if every single person had their own shop?
    The same amount of space it takes for us all to have are own farm I imagine.

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    Just add "search for seller" to the AH. There ya' go.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kage View Post
    The same amount of space it takes for us all to have are own farm I imagine.
    except every farm occupies the same space... and each person only ever goes to their farm. It wouldn't work for a shop, as the prospect is visiting OTHER people's shops, not your own.

    The only thing that I would like to add is a "search for seller" option to the auction house... I deal out a lot of items for transmog, and I can only link four (two in each line) in trade chat at any given time. It'd be nice if I could offer up my name so people could search what I have to offer on the AH.
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    Pretty sure this was in one of the FF MMOs, and Maplestory. Pretty much means that you get like a lemonade stand (thats placed anywhere in an instanced zone) with your char behind it and an add on the top, acting as an NPC to sell your stuff while going afk.

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    It would likely take a mix of the phasing system used to allow each of us our own Sunsong Ranch and also something like the Guild Finder for the advertising you spoke of.

    It could certainly happen with a good bit of work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    except every farm occupies the same space... and each person only ever goes to their farm. It wouldn't work for a shop, as the prospect is visiting OTHER people's shops, not your own.

    The only thing that I would like to add is a "search for seller" option to the auction house... I deal out a lot of items for transmog, and I can only link four (two in each line) in trade chat at any given time. It'd be nice if I could offer up my name so people could search what I have to offer on the AH.
    Why couldn't they all occupy the same space? Using a Guild Finder function to advertise and teleport them in to the shop.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bladeface View Post
    how would this ever work? do you know how much space that would take up if every single person had their own shop?

    Reminds me of tunnel trading or the bazaar in EQ1. Except, now they could utilize some modern technology like phasing to combat the lag from all the peoples.

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    The way it works in other MMOs atleast ones I play is that you select the items you want to sell, set a price and sit in town AFK while other plays can run by see what you have and the prices, it does the trading for you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kage View Post
    Why couldn't they all occupy the same space? Using a Guild Finder function to advertise and teleport them in to the shop.
    Because that'd be a hell of a lot of ads to slog through. Unless they set the buy-in price for a shop to be extremely high to keep out all the "plz buy stuffs hear plox!" riff-raff, everything would become extremely crowded.

    Honestly, I don't think it would really work for anything beyond "unique" items like pets, high-end crafted items, and maybe rare transmog items. No one really cares where they get crafting mats like ore, gems, and cloth from as there's no distinction between them, and in a shop situation, it'd be difficult, or at least annoying, to continually undercut the competition for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kage View Post
    The same amount of space it takes for us all to have are own farm I imagine.
    oh right so nobody could ever see yoour shop? thats a great idea. and even if they could see it if they are in a group with you whats the point when you could just go trade with somebody?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Hoppins View Post
    The way it works in other MMOs atleast ones I play is that you select the items you want to sell, set a price and sit in town AFK while other plays can run by see what you have and the prices, it does the trading for you.
    so... the auction house?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaleredar View Post
    Because that'd be a hell of a lot of ads to slog through. Unless they set the buy-in price for a shop to be extremely high to keep out all the "plz buy stuffs hear plox!" riff-raff, everything would become extremely crowded.

    Honestly, I don't think it would really work for anything beyond "unique" items like pets, high-end crafted items, and maybe rare transmog items. No one really cares where they get crafting mats like ore, gems, and cloth from as there's no distinction between them, and in a shop situation, it'd be difficult, or at least annoying, to continually undercut the competition for them.
    I assume they could use similar methods to cross-realm zones to regulate shop traffic. As well as a sophisticated filter system to get people to the shops they want to be in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pebrocks The Warlock View Post
    I read the OP but the future is pointless and just makes it so you never have to visit cities.
    How ironic would that be?

    I think it's kind of an interesting idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bladeface View Post
    oh right so nobody could ever see yoour shop? thats a great idea. and even if they could see it if they are in a group with you whats the point when you could just go trade with somebody?
    As I said previously in the thread. A sophisticated Guild Finder-style interface to help find you to the shops you wanna be in then you port the customers in like a Dungeon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kage View Post
    I assume they could use similar methods to cross-realm zones to regulate shop traffic. As well as a sophisticated filter system to get people to the shops they want to be in.
    Sophisticated filter? Who's to say people wont just set their shop up as "all of the above" so they get the most amount of traffic browsing through?

    If you look at games with user made (in this case, regulated) content, people go to insane lengths to try and get people to look at their stuff, for whatever reason. People would make shops into a great big pain in the neck...
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