Prostitution loophole?

[Fenixdown]

No, and some "massage parlors" already do this. Where do you think the joke "do you want a happy ending?" came from? It's the term for getting oral sex after a massage.

[smelltheglove]

i always thought the legal loophole was a camera. then it's porn

[v2prwsmb45yhuq3wj23vpjk]

OP: The scenario you are talking about would never, ever work for long. Once the word got around, the police would do a sting and take you to court. They would assert that the real service being sold was sex with a massage cover. They would win.

You'd also have to get agreements from the customers stating they agreed to be filmed having sex. In addition, you have to -sell- the tapes for it to be legally pornography, not just film it.

Pretty damn sure you don't need to sell the tapes. The way you'd get away with this is you'd advertise it as 'personal pornography' wherein you can come have sex while it was being recorded for your own personal use, either with your own partner or with a pornographic actor/actress. It would still very likely get shut down under the same reasons, but yeah, you don't need to distribute it for it to be protected. The key for this kind of thing would be ensuring you have good camera equipment and facilities and generally just treating it exactly like a pornographic filming business.

[northstarman]

Straight prostitution is lawful in Tennessee. Prostitution is illegal. For whom prostitution is illegal for? Gay couples who engage in homosexual sexual activity. The state legislature intent the prostitution law to apply to homosexuals. That why they specify that the any sexual relations including homosexual relations.

The cops have misapplied the Tennessee. Attorneys, politicians, and judges kept this a secret. Escorts and hobbyist who got busted in prostitution sting didn't read the statute. Through word trickery, they got deceived into believing what they done was a crime and cooperated with the unlawful criminal conviction.

"(6) "Prostitution" means engaging in, or offering to engage in, sexual activity as a business or being an inmate in a house of prostitution or loitering in a public place for the purpose of being hired to engage in sexual activity; and
(7) "Sexual activity" means any sexual relations including homosexual sexual relations."- Tenn. Code Ann. § 39-13-512


Sexual activity means any sexual relations including (containing or part of) homo sexual relations.

The word "include" and "including" means a part or member of the greater whole or to contain. The word "include" can be a partial list of component or members and doesn't exclude member or part that is not mentioned. For example, "my car includes a radio." The car engine is not mentioned and cannot be excluded component.

What is mentioned after the word "include" cannot be excluded except when there is an "or." Then is a possible what the item contains. "Breakfast includes eggs, bacon, or sausage.

If you read this sentence, the car doesn't contain a radio and substitute it with engine, then you are read Some of the people will read the car description and exclude the "radio" and fill in engine.

If there is no homosexual relationship in the sexual relationship, then it doesn't meet the definition of sexual activity. If the legislature want it to apply to heterosexual as well, they would of mention heterosexual acts in the definition. Homosexual acts cannot be excluded and substituted for heterosexual acts. If you are reading that way, you are not reading correct. For example, a porn can have heterosexual acts. When include is used, it may be a partial list.

A porn that includes homosexual acts may not necessary exclude heterosexual acts. If there is no homosexual act in the porn, then it is incorrect and a lie to state that the porn includes homosexual acts.

The Vatican is the government above all governments and the religion above all religion through Gnostic secret societies. Attorneys, judges, politicians, police officers, and religious leaders are in a fraternity under the Vatican. They are under a secret oath. Religion is a secret society. So is government. That is how the truth about Tennessee prostitution law has been hidden for so long.

The truth is the prostitution law has been misapply to heterosexual activities for money.


Let's make this day Feb. 10 to be Tennessee Lawful Straight Prostitution Day. If you are an hobbyist seeking escort services for heterosexual activity, you can count yourself as you were the first to make a lawful prostitution transaction. You can feel like the first guy or gal in Colorado that make the first legal recreational weed purchase. The state legislature intended the prostitution law target gay activity that why they wrote sexual relations including homosexual relations.


The prostitution law only applies to gay prostitution and not straight prostitution. The cops have misapplied the Tennessee. Attorneys, politicians, and judges kept this a secret. Escorts and hobbyist who got busted in prostitution sting didn't read the statute. Through word trickery, they got deceived into believing what they done was a crime, and never brought up the loophole in court. The criminal statutes has been misapplied against them.


"(6)"Prostitution" means engaging in, or offering to engage in, sexual activity as a business or being an inmate in a house of prostitution or loitering in a public place for the purpose of being hired to engage in sexual activity; and

(7)"Sexual activity" means any sexual relations including homosexual sexual relations."- Tenn. Code Ann. § 39-13-512


Sexual activity means any sexual relations including (containing or part of) homo sexual relations. The word "include" doesn't mean to exclude. Some people will read it and think that they can exclude the homo sexual relations definition and add heterosexual. If you go to a legal or common word dictionary and look up the definition of "include", it doesn't allow components to be deleted and added.


The word"include" and "including" means a part or member of the greater whole or to contain. The word "include" can be a partial list of component or members and doesn't exclude member or part that is not mentioned. For example, "my car includes a radio. " The car engine is not mentioned and cannot be excluded component.


What is mentioned after the word "include" cannot be excluded except when there is an"or." Then is a possible what the item contains. "Breakfast includes eggs, bacon, or sausage.


If you read this sentence, the car doesn't contain a radio and substitute it with engine, then you are read Some of the people will read the car description and exclude the "radio" and fill in engine.


If there is no homosexual relations in the sexual relations, then it doesn't meet the definition of sexual activity. If there is no homosexual relation in the sexual relation, then it doesn't meet the definition of sexual activity. If the legislature want it to apply to heterosexual as well, they would of mention heterosexual acts in the definition.


Homosexual acts cannot be excluded and substituted for heterosexual acts. If you are reading that way, you are not reading correct. For example, a porn can have heterosexual acts. When include is used, it may be a partial list. A porn that includes homosexual acts may not necessary exclude heterosexual acts. If there is no homosexual act in the porn, then it is incorrect and a lie to state that the porn includes homosexual acts.

The statute is stating that sexual activity mean any sexual relations that is in the class (include) homosexual relations. Sexual activity means gay sex and exclude straight sex.


The Vatican is the government above all governments and the religion above all religion through Gnostic secret societies. Attorneys, judges, politicians, police officers, and religious leaders are in a fraternity under the Vatican. They are under a secret oath. Religion is a secret society. So is government. That is how the truth about Tennessee prostitution law has been hidden for so long. The truth is the prostitution law has been misapply to heterosexual activities for money.

[Mistame]

There shouldn't be a loophole because prostitution shouldn't be illegal.

[yetgdhfgh]

Prostitution laws are so Victorian and so broken they seriously need fixing in the western world. (I say western world cause i have given up in the other parts of the world)

Sex is as natural as eating and we need to create a situation where those who is to partake in sexual services be it woman or men can do it in a very safe and very well regulated way just like we do with other shit like our food and other human natural behavoiours.

Sex work should be legalised and highly regulated to weed out those who are there cause of trafficking and to give regular health check ups and to make sure everything is as safe as can possibly be. (Yes nothing is 100 percent safe and neither is working in a factory or at a building site)

FFS if we can weed out illegal workers from Mcdonalds iam sure we can do the same for sex workers be them both female or male.

[Zogarth]

Holy necro. Arthas would be proud man.

[yetgdhfgh]

Holy necro. Arthas would be proud man.

That dude is dead also yeah iam posting in a necro and the euphemism is well...

[Zogarth]

That dude is dead also yeah iam posting in a necro and the euphemism is well...

I know. But our dear necromancer seems to like old dead things, so I thought he could relate better to Arthas than something that did not die out years ago.

[yetgdhfgh]

Legalizing prostitution has historically increased the demand far faster than the supply. The end result is more human trafficking and more people forced into sex work.

What we need is sexbots.

HAHA remember that brothel in Paris? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43506621

Communist councillors and feminist groups had called on the Council of Paris - the body responsible for governing the city - to study the possibilities of closing Xdolls

Even pieces of plastic and silicone was deemed to controversial for certain groups!

There is nothing wrong with sex work as long as its heavily regulated with councillors and health worker checkups.

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I know. But our dear necromancer seems to like old dead things, so I thought he could relate better to Arthas than something that did not die out years ago.

No worries and tbh this is a subject that needs to be brought up again

Oh to make my point clear https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/08/healt...ntl/index.html

[yetgdhfgh]

Crime happens. If the demand is much greater than the supply then either crime will step in to fill it, or we will have the akward situation of legal persons in our countries seeking visas for legal prostitute immigrants from abroad. I . . . am not sure how that will work though.

Thats no worse than people who want workers for Mcdonalds or to pick crops.

Here is an interesting article from CNN https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/08/healt...ntl/index.html

At the end of the day its just work it doesn't matter if you use your mind, your muscle or your genitals. Its just work to gain money and in our capitalistic society that is the only show in town and the way things are.

[Gaidax]

You think that's a loophole? Ha.

They do it much simpler in Japan - they setup a dating service you pay for and then they find you a "girlfriend". Naturally as a couple you can do whatever the fuck you want and that's how they do it there, despite prostitution being illegal and all.

Honestly the whole thing is so leaky that I am all for legalisation, because at least this way the legal places will be properly monitored and supervisions to prevent violations for both workers and clients.


Here for example it's illegal and recently there was introduced a law where clients get fines if caught, but in reality the whole thing is thriving including sex trafficking and what not. Guess the upside is it's not like in China where I kept being offered this shit in the middle of the main street in a broad daylight by various agents in Shanghai. It's also illegal there, that's why I don't believe in this whole outlawing it thing, because from my experience it only makes things worse for everyone, especially the women.

[Zogarth]

HAHA remember that brothel in Paris? https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-43506621

Communist councillors and feminist groups had called on the Council of Paris - the body responsible for governing the city - to study the possibilities of closing Xdolls

Even pieces of plastic and silicone was deemed to controversial for certain groups!

There is nothing wrong with sex work as long as its heavily regulated with councillors and health worker checkups.

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No worries and tbh this is a subject that needs to be brought up again

Oh to make my point clear https://www.cnn.com/2019/02/08/healt...ntl/index.html

Well, I am Danish, and while the prostitution business has many issues, it is far better than in many other countries, US included. It is legal here, but pimping is illegal, and brothels are not really a thing.

[yetgdhfgh]

Well, I am Danish, and while the prostitution business has many issues, it is far better than in many other countries, US included. It is legal here, but pimping is illegal, and brothels are not really a thing.

Exactly you do it right.

Sex is a commodity and it hurts more by keeping it in the shadows than it ever would by legalizing it and bringing up to the light.

Can we please get rid of our Victorian attitudes towards sex and maybe then we can crush the pimps who brand and treat there woman like cattle and where we can create a safe space for all those who want to sell sex be it woman or men that is when we can turn on the pimps and wipe them out for good!

Like i said this should be heavily regulated and dont tell me you cant regulate a profession!

[UnluckyAmateur]

Should just legalize it to save everyone trouble.

[GreenJesus]

An undercover police officer would eventually show up with a hidden recording device.

And I'm sure he'll wait till after the deed is done just to confirm

[Deathknightish]

That's literally what they do at every thai massage parlor here in Sweden, where it's illegal to buy, but not to sell.

There is not a single saloon that does not offer happy ending.

[yetgdhfgh]

I shall end by saying i dont know many pimps who pimp out factory workers or those who work in the food sector.

They exists cause Prostitution is illegal and the fact they cant go to the police when they get beaten up or a john doesnt pay and pimps go to far where they brand and keep them hostages.

We can destroy this with regulation but alas our attitudes towards sex will never change cause of well i will let you guess.

[Naiyano]

Unless they catch you red handed (photos, video, cop sees it), I don't think they can get you on the spot. This doesn't mean they wont look into it, of course.

Not a lawyer.

If they had it on video wouldn't it be porn and in this case legal because no prostitution?