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  1. #281
    Quote Originally Posted by SamR View Post
    And I can vote to kick you. One less greedy disruptive player in the raid, why shouldn't I?
    How is it being disruptive? The player rolling need is just going about their business, while you're making a drama out of it by initiating a vote kick. I would say it is you who is being more disruptive.

    How many posts have you made in this thread? Seems you're taking this way more seriously than anyone else...
    Lol... a few, I enjoy watching arguments over spilt milk, and refuting some of the stuff on here. It's fun. If I took it seriously, I'd be crying about 30g... oh wait...

    ---------- Post added 2013-02-23 at 08:58 AM ----------

    Quote Originally Posted by rhandric View Post
    You still have yet to explain why people should be using NEED for the purposes of GREED, when not everyone always has the same opportunities for NEED. And the excuse, "Others do it, so that makes it right for me" is bullshit.
    Everyone can roll need on lockboxes.

    Why? Because it's available to them. Free gold, yay. Too bad for you, buddy. Maybe a green will drop for your class which he can't roll on? It's not an excuse, it's reality - there will be competition for those need rolls.

  2. #282
    Here's the perfect solution to this: make it so that when you roll need and win, you immediately equip said item you just won, and get the DE results of the item it replaced.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryngo Blackratchet View Post
    Yeah, Rhandric is right, as usual.

  3. #283
    Not quite sure why people are still responding to Heidelstein, I doubt the mentally challenged are able-minded enough to understand or respond to conversations that are deeper than their limited comprehension. Let him win his shinies, they're pretty and I'm sure he could appreciate how they glimmer in the light.

    OT: As people have said before, it's the principal of it and not the "loss of a 20-30g".
    I shard everything I get and have an overabundance of enchanting mats that I don't need, and I don't AH them either - I packrat them. Enchanting mats, and greens, have absolutely no value to me whatsoever, those "1c pieces nobody cares about" are worth more to me. As others have said before as well, I wouldn't initiate a kick but I wouldn't hesitate on clicking Yes. If the needer continues to need then I may initiate a kick as well.

    And I'm not a baddie, I usually rank 4-7 place in damage in MSV and 10-13 place in damage in HoF/ToES...as discipline.

  4. #284
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  5. #285
    Quote Originally Posted by Manaia View Post
    Not quite sure why people are still responding to Heidelstein, I doubt the mentally challenged are able-minded enough to understand or respond to conversations that are deeper than their limited comprehension. Let him win his shinies, they're pretty and I'm sure he could appreciate how they glimmer in the light.
    Oh, so now I'm mentally challenged because I think the idea of rolling "Need" on greens is completely trivial, and there are a lot of crybabies in LFR? And somehow you're linking something so trivial in a computer game to something of considerable depth? Nah, I'm not the one who's mentally challenged here... I have something called "perspective".

    OT: As people have said before, it's the principal of it and not the "loss of a 20-30g".
    It's not about principle, because I guarantee that if the item was worth 0 most people would not give a crap. Hell, I suspect most people anyway do not give a crap about a "green" item. Get some damn perspective. These 'need' rollers are usually kicked out by only a handful of disgruntled crybabies, whereas the rest of the raid is going about its business, most likely not even aware someone rolled Need.

  6. #286
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manaia View Post
    Not quite sure why people are still responding to Heidelstein, I doubt the mentally challenged are able-minded enough to understand or respond to conversations that are deeper than their limited comprehension. Let him win his shinies, they're pretty and I'm sure he could appreciate how they glimmer in the light.
    And hes doing what exactly? Calling people out for being insanely butthurt over 1 green item, oh yeah herald the mods better get this one perma banned...

    What exactly makes you so spiteful that you'd want to boot some random player in a random LFR for needing a measly green item, what actually makes you hate that person so much? Principle of what? I helped a guy kill a rare eirlier on, I asked if we could both roll on an item, he just took it, I was mildy affronted for about half a second, then I mounted up and said "cya".

    On the grand scale of things this kind of "ninjaing" is dismissable at best.

  7. #287
    Quote Originally Posted by foxHeart View Post
    It's like stealing towels from a hotel and then going, "Oh well, they don't need towels anyway, there's like a thousand more where that came from."
    Basically "Don't steal towels from a hotel because I WAS GOING TO STEAL THEM!!!"

  8. #288
    All loot in LFR should follow the boss loot method. No rolling, you just get a pop-up window if you won something. Let the computer handle everything else.

  9. #289
    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    And hes doing what exactly? Calling people out for being insanely butthurt over 1 green item, oh yeah herald the mods better get this one perma banned...

    What exactly makes you so spiteful that you'd want to boot some random player in a random LFR for needing a measly green item, what actually makes you hate that person so much? Principle of what? I helped a guy kill a rare eirlier on, I asked if we could both roll on an item, he just took it, I was mildy affronted for about half a second, then I mounted up and said "cya".

    On the grand scale of things this kind of "ninjaing" is dismissable at best.
    What's spiteful about a random player thinking he's worth more then the entire raid and just go about needing on a green item?
    Everything.If he wasn't a douchebag he would have stated his reason and asked for a permission before doing that.
    Again,WoW is an mmo.
    And some raids want decent players.On all fronts.Good skills and Good social skills.
    If your boy is a social noob too bad,get kicked like a noob.Raiding is still a team activity.Even in lfr.
    In my book a social noob,meaning ninjas and douchebags are worse then noobs who suck at the meters.

    Now if I don't want people with bad dps in my raid why would I want people with bad behaviour?
    Last edited by ZRebellion; 2013-02-22 at 10:28 PM.

  10. #290
    Quote Originally Posted by Heidelstein View Post
    Oh, so now I'm mentally challenged because I think the idea of rolling "Need" on greens is completely trivial, and there are a lot of crybabies in LFR? And somehow you're linking something so trivial in a computer game to something of considerable depth? Nah, I'm not the one who's mentally challenged here... I have something called "perspective".
    You're mentally challenged because you do LFR, but your own admission you're retarded. I try not to use a word because it's a very negative word. Do you not do LFR? Did I misunderstand your stance on the people who do LFR? If so, I apologize...afterall, I also do LFR so I'm also challenged as well, at least according to you anyway. I didn't say this as a means to insulting you, just as a means to taking what you had to say into consideration and taking into account that you are, indeed, mentally challenged.

    Quote Originally Posted by Heidelstein
    It's not about principle, because I guarantee that if the item was worth 0 most people would not give a crap. Hell, I suspect most people anyway do not give a crap about a "green" item. Get some damn perspective. These 'need' rollers are usually kicked out by only a handful of disgruntled crybabies, whereas the rest of the raid is going about its business, most likely not even aware someone rolled Need.
    1st bolded statement: I love how you blatantly disregard the next sentence that states it IS worth 0 to me.
    2nd bolded statement: I can agree with you there, as you said "usually kicked out", since most people wouldn't initiate a vote to kick, though they wouldn't mind clicking "yes" to it.

    Also, "Get some damn perspective." to what? I have MY perspective, could you grace me with the godlike perspective that you have? I so wish my pitiful existence can be ever so blessed by your greedy perspective.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    And hes doing what exactly? Calling people out for being insanely butthurt over 1 green item, oh yeah herald the mods better get this one perma banned...

    What exactly makes you so spiteful that you'd want to boot some random player in a random LFR for needing a measly green item, what actually makes you hate that person so much? Principle of what? I helped a guy kill a rare eirlier on, I asked if we could both roll on an item, he just took it, I was mildy affronted for about half a second, then I mounted up and said "cya".

    On the grand scale of things this kind of "ninjaing" is dismissable at best.
    1) There's no spite.
    2) He stopped being a random player when he inconvenienced people, this is not limited to needing.
    3) There's no hate, either. It doesn't take hate or spite to Vote Kick someone, just as it doesn't take being a tree hugging hippy to help someone kill a rare.
    3a) If you "help" someone kill a rare with an expectation of loot, you're not there to help them. You're there to help yourself have a chance at a rare that was already tapped.
    4) On the grand scale of things, getting kicked from LFD/LFR just involves requeueing, which is dismissable at best.

  11. #291
    Quote Originally Posted by Manaia View Post
    You're mentally challenged because you do LFR, but your own admission you're retarded. I try not to use a word because it's a very negative word. Do you not do LFR? Did I misunderstand your stance on the people who do LFR? If so, I apologize...afterall, I also do LFR so I'm also challenged as well, at least according to you anyway. I didn't say this as a means to insulting you, just as a means to taking what you had to say into consideration and taking into account that you are, indeed, mentally challenged.
    LFR has plenty of retards. That doesn't necessarily mean every single person is a retard though. So it is through your misinterpretation.

    Also, "Get some damn perspective." to what? I have MY perspective, could you grace me with the godlike perspective that you have? I so wish my pitiful existence can be ever so blessed by your greedy perspective.
    And what perspective is that?

    You are crying over something so so extremely trivial. These are greens we're talking about. Greens. Shall I spell it out to you? Oh, and you're not funny either - the sarcasm act is pretty cringeworthy, and doesn't actually address anything.

  12. #292
    Quote Originally Posted by Jaylock View Post
    I searched and couldnt find a recent similar topic to post in, so here it goes:

    I couldnt believe what I saw transpire in LFR the other night...

    So the run is going smooth, it is the first half of HoF, and the trash packs after the first boss dropped a few greens. Before I finish my story let me say this: when a green drops, why on earth do people care if someone needs on it or not?

    Yes thats right, as you probably have guessed, a guy needed on a single green mail item. It was like a belt or something. Instantly, like 3 people called him out, and demanded that he be booted from the raid. WTF? Are you such an asshole that you completely lose it when someone needs on a frickin green item?

    A GREEN ITEM. Its not like it was a blue or even an epic. It was GREEN. Why anyone would get upset and demand to boot the guy because of that is just beyond me. It also just goes to show you how entitled and selfish several people are when it comes to this game.

    It wasnt justified that he was booted, as he was doing rather quite well on the dps meters (i believe he was in the top 3 on the first boss).

    TL;DR - Get off your high horse and quit with the petty booting ppl that need on greens in LFR.
    I love making nerd rages on my tank or healer... instant queue ftw.

    But only on lockboxes...

  13. #293
    Considering the reprehensible things that OP has admitted to in the past (like constantly pulling a melee dps off a lfr boss over and over again with a pull player to me mechanic for shits and giggles) all I can do is ROFLOL at the idea that they could come here and moan about the morale failings of people kicking him from groups for his/her morale failings.

  14. #294
    Quote Originally Posted by Heidelstein View Post
    You are crying over something so so extremely trivial. These are greens we're talking about. Greens. Shall I spell it out to you? Oh, and you're not funny either - the sarcasm act is pretty cringeworthy, and doesn't actually address anything.
    You've been crying louder than anyone else on this thread.

    I'll check back on this thread tomorrow just to see how many more posts you've made on this topic than you think is extremely trivial.

  15. #295
    [QUOTE]=Heidelstein;20309210]LFR has plenty of retards. That doesn't necessarily mean every single person is a retard though. So it is through your misinterpretation.[QUOTE] Oh my bad, the way you were acting you were implying everyone but you was retarded. I just wanted to lump you in with that group to be fair.

    And what perspective is that?
    Pretty sure I said it was the principle of it and not it being a green item...the principle of intentionally inconveniencing others out of personal greed.

    You are crying over something so so extremely trivial.
    Pretty sure I'm not crying. If I came off like that, I apologize.

    These are greens we're talking about. Greens. Shall I spell it out to you?
    See perspective response.

    Oh, and you're not funny either - the sarcasm act is pretty cringeworthy, and doesn't actually address anything.
    I tried to match your greedy, elitist attitude...I'd say I was successful then if it made you cringe? How does your elitist attitude addresses issues?

    Edit: Oops, didn't close a quote bracket!
    /sigh...I guess even after the edit it doesn't format it
    Last edited by Manaia; 2013-02-22 at 11:01 PM.

  16. #296
    I'm not going to initiate a votekick, but I'll go along with one.

    The price of a vendor green means almost nothing to me; but it's the attitude of the player that says "I don't think the rest of you are important enough that I should bother cooperating." It's a fundamental lack of respect.

  17. #297
    Roll Need for items you need.
    Everything else is greed.
    Learn this very simple lootrules or be kicked. It's natural selection to get grown up players.

  18. #298
    reminds me of sexual harrassment on the workfloor...''but I only placed my hand on her ass for a few seconds,no harm done,why did she have to get mad?''

  19. #299
    Because most people have experienced the following things...

    The guys that need on every small crappy item will also need on the more important items.

    Lets replace the vendor trash green with a high Ilevel blue item that can be used by characters that are 80 and 85. I recently sold a agil mace that can be used by lvl 80 chars for 2k (in retrospect I should have put it higher but I find 2k a stupid price already), so when something like this drops people know that the guy who presses need on everything will also press need on the valuable stuff.

  20. #300
    /care to read all the pages, but I would vote kick any single greedy (well, neeedy in that case) asshole too.

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