Page 87 of 87 FirstFirst ...
37
77
85
86
87
  1. #1721
    Elemental Lord Masark's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Canada
    Posts
    8,956
    Quote Originally Posted by GreatSageCorban View Post
    since the voter ID thing is still putting about, I'm just going to throw some stuff out. If it's already been cited and or 'shot down' my apologies.

    24 million invalid voter registrations still on rolls & 1.8 million dead still able to vote
    http://www.pewtrusts.org/our_work_re...id=85899370677

    People registering to vote after their death:
    http://marylandreporter.com/2012/09/...-on-the-rolls/

    The whole "More people registered to vote then live in the county" thing in ohio. Official document recognizing the fact:
    http://www.scribd.com/doc/104449069/Complaint-Ohio-NVRA

    (Yes it's the blaze, don't have time to find another source.) Federal records show 160 counties nation wide with the same "more registrations then people" thing.
    http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2012...gible-to-vote/

    Leaving work, good day gents.
    1. Only 1.8 million? That's about 266 days worth of deaths, so the time from death to removed from the voter rolls is about that long. Faster than the probate courts.

    2. Yes, it's not an uncommon thing. People move. And how many of those 160 counties has a university/college? (Answer: probably lots. There are about 4100 colleges and universities in the USA) Student comes in, is there for 1, maybe 2 elections, then goes somewhere else, and doesn't bother to inform anyone they're leaving the district (who does?). And they probably didn't inform anyone when they moved from home, so they might be registered in 3 places and because you've got a seemingly random distribution of responsibilities between levels of government (whoever thought having state governments managing federal elections didn't plan on your country getting this big), you get massive left-hand-not-talking-to-the-right-hand situation, resulting in the rolls getting cluttered, but having to err on the side of caution so you don't mispurge someone.

    We have less of a problem, as our elections are done federally by Elections Canada, who can get their info from the CRA and also statscan.

  2. #1722
    Quote Originally Posted by Zhangfei View Post
    But then the burden of proof is on YOU to find it out!
    Yeah, let me go door to door and ask if people have voted more then once in the last election. Or we can just wait until there is a massive voter fraud and deal with the fall out of that. I mean why go through the hassle of trying to prevent easy fraud right?

    I will find it comical when the Republicans win the next presidential election and Voter ID laws get passed and not challenged by Democrats.

  3. #1723
    Merely a Setback Rukentuts's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Mini Soda
    Posts
    25,939
    Quote Originally Posted by petej0 View Post
    I will find it comical when the Republicans win the next presidential election and Voter ID laws get passed and not challenged by Democrats.
    1) States define these laws.
    2) MN defeated a Voter ID Amendment last November. Too soon?
    Quote Originally Posted by GreatOak View Post
    Hey, as a transabled, transethnic, non-binary, genderqueer, neo-communist, indoor-capable republican otherkin I am offended by your callous display of ignorance.
    Quote Originally Posted by Cybran View Post
    Both of those links don't provide any evidence. They make unsubstantiated statements

  4. #1724
    Old God Grizzly Willy's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Kenosha, Wisconsin
    Posts
    10,210
    Wouldn't it occur with greater frequency if it were so easy?

  5. #1725
    Scarab Lord Zhangfei's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2010
    Location
    Cola, SC via Devon
    Posts
    4,357
    Quote Originally Posted by petej0 View Post
    Yeah, let me go door to door and ask if people have voted more then once in the last election. Or we can just wait until there is a massive voter fraud and deal with the fall out of that. I mean why go through the hassle of trying to prevent easy fraud right?
    That's how the law actually works, you know? If you find out ahead of time, you can prevent it. If not, you resolve it.

    You can't actually make up problems to fix with no evidence!

    I will find it comical when the Republicans win the next presidential election and Voter ID laws get passed and not challenged by Democrats.
    Not only do you make up problems that don't exist, you're psychic too?
    In fact as far as I'm aware the UK is the only european nation that outright bans guns for civilians.
    Shotguns I'll give you (provided you're allowed 12 and larger gauges... because I mean... come on...) but not .22s.
    This is why people ban guns. Gun supporters don't know what guns are.

  6. #1726
    Quote Originally Posted by Rukentuts View Post
    FYI: That source more than supports my claim of "couple thousand".
    I'm just grabbing info. Who's pov it supports does not invalidate it, so I will still post something when I find it. Related question: How easy do you think it is to determine when voter fraud occurs? What checks are there even post election to find it? This question is something I'll have to look into more. It may be a very difficult thing to prosecute, let alone determine. When I have the time, I'll post any findings I come across.

  7. #1727
    Fluffy Kitten Dacien's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2010
    Location
    Southern California
    Posts
    9,069
    Well I subscribe to the line of thought of some political pundits I listen to, which is that many Hispanics are first-generation immigrants who tend to be poor because they haven't had a chance to make any money yet. So they tend to be big fans of the Democratic "big government" message, that government assistance is the answer. (Speaking strictly non-partisan here). So the Hispanic vote is likely to continue to favor Democrats, and from what I heard, this largely hasn't changed in decades. The only time they go the other way is during particular social issue votes since many Hispanic families also tend to be religious. Specifically, Catholic or Christian.

    So, Republicans can't ever really get a foothold with that demographic. At least not for the foreseeable future.

  8. #1728
    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    So, Republicans can't ever really get a foothold with that demographic. At least not for the foreseeable future.
    Nope, they can't. I wonder why? It might also have something to do with all the talk about electric fences on the border and self deportation. For over a decade Republicans used fear of the evil brown people seeping into America to get out the old, paranoid white vote. No one is going to forget that because Sean Hannity begrudgingly decided that immigration reform might a good idea. Hispanics aren't the morons Republicans seem to take them for. The Republicans only started trying half-assed "outreach" afterif became obvious the Hispanic vote was going to kill Republicans in national elections.

  9. #1729
    Quote Originally Posted by Dacien View Post
    So, Republicans can't ever really get a foothold with that demographic. At least not for the foreseeable future.
    Would you include the Cubans in that demographic? The ones who initially got into this country without government-imposed hurdles (being a symbol for the fight against communism) and have reliably been a Republican bloc up until this past election, when Obama won a majority of their vote?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •