Soul leech change. good or bad.

[Shodan30]

I had forgotten about this change going in this patch since we were so focused on the sac nerfs, but i got to use it and im not sure if i like it or not.

In one way, it will help for large burst damage occurances since we will build up a nice absorb in the meantime, and once you get it going its pretty nice.

However this makes healing our pet if we are going supremacy over sac more difficult, and while he gets a nice absorb too, hes not getting a steady heal, so voidwalkers not nearly as great a tank as he was for solo/questing (tested him against some dinos on the isle of giants, he can tank the giant raptor babies but may die depending on your dps and need a resummon once, he can kill the triceritops babys without a problem but the flying dinos two shotted him.

The trick is when you have fights that dont have a lot of time to build up agony..saw this last night on Horradon, and as affliction i didnt get much benefit out of the absorb because adds werent lasting long enough to get me a nice pile of absorb.

while i suppose this makes it a 'balanced' change, im not sure it was done factoring in the switch over to supremacy from sac. With the need to now heal our pet seperately, or let it die and resummon, we have less dps time as a result.

[Chrispotter]

Good. Very good. Building up a nice chunky shield for 20 seconds and then getitng hit by an ability and taking very little damage is alot better than being at full hp for 20 seconds and getting overhealed, thus being useless.

[Deleted]

I like the change. The absorb is always handy to have, and i haven;t really noticed it lowering pet healing at all, if anything it makes it easier since you can build up a nice buffer on your pet before needing to health funnel. Plus in a raid situation you pet will be topped off by all those smart heals flying around anyways

[Raugnaut]

Its actually the EXACT same healing on the pet as before, except its a shield instead. 0 change in healing., except it can no longer overheal, EVER.

[weakdots]

i found soul leach to be amazing on magaera. i was taking almost no damage on the posion explosions, as opposed to our ret pally who was dropping to like 50% health every time. Also was able to life tap to near full everytime we stacked up during the frenzy's when switching to new heads. normally cant life tap during big incoming dmg phases but with soul leach its now possible

[Camnorick]

I like the change. In a raid environment, its very very nice.
Does anyone have a way to monitor the shield value? Like, I would like a number on how much shield I have in a weak aura, or possibly put it in my pitbull.

[Zinnin]

It is a very, very solid PVE change and it is now a very good talent to take on fights where you are single target dpsing most of the time.

[aevitas]

I like it. I haven't really paid attention to it (to be honest I completely forgot about the change because I was too busy checking out destro/demo changes).

I noticed it's strength when I was soloing ICC 10 HC today. Last week I solo'd all of ICC 10 normal (except valithria ofcourse) and this run it almost felt easier despite it was on heroic. It really helped quite a lot on Saurfang especially because of the shitload of damage he dishes out when he goes frenzy.

All in all, quite a nice chance. It was just overhealing before and now it just stacks until you take damage I think.

[Cyner]

It is a very, very solid PVE change and it is now a very good talent to take on fights where you are single target dpsing most of the time.

I agree, I like the change to it quite a bit.

On a side note, here is my weak aura for tracking it with stacks and time showing

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[rezoacken]

I laugh at raid wide damage.

Soul Leech, Aegis (from a priest), Sacrificial pact... just a scratch.

[Deleted]

Love it in single target fights. Like the fact that it scales with our dmg (as opposed to Dark Regen which only scales with our health) and with lots of fight mechanics with a +dmg buff you'll even get more from that talent (Heroic Horridon for instance). The shield amount goes up very quickly on pull + Bloodlust.
I'm not sure how to see on recount how much dmg I absorbed with it though.

[Deleted]

dunno if its true but from what ive heard soul leech shiel has the highest prio of getting broken, so even with spirit shell, power word:shield and divine aegis, any dmg done to you will be absorb by your soul leech first, if there is a problem with soul leech, i would have to say it would be this, other than that its a very solid talent.

[Deleted]

Awesome, no wasted heals in PvE anymore, also quite sweet for PvP!

[DenniZ]

Has anyone tried this from a PVP standpoint? I run with Dark regen normally but an extra shield wouldn't hurt I guess.
The HOT healing from Dark Regen cant be activated to late and to deep into your own healthbar because of the over time healing so most of the healing is regularly lost in overhealing. Just wonder if people get a nice shield going in PVP or dont get the time to pull that off.

Thanks for the weakaura!

[Nicola]

It can work for normal battlegrounds, but for arena, as soon as they notice you don't have dark regeneration, you will get tunneled and be unable to build up a shield.

[Bloodfire]

I like the way it is now. Amount of heal from old version was just LAWL.

[Nazmina]

I used soul leech with soul link on Megara and took virtually no damage during rampage. Also looking at the meters I took the least damage and soaked up the least amount of healing.

[Bluesftw]

stacking shield > overhealing anyday of the week

[Zacharow]

can anyone make it work with GrimSac and Soul Link? I tried it with destro and sac and it gave me 100% of HP as a shield, but got no shield as soon as I got the Soul Link talent aswell. havent read patchnotes so I dunno if it is intended or not.

[SaltLakeAtrocity]

I haven't played around with it, but I assume its a constant buff that fluctuates based on the damage values the last 20 seconds (like Vengeance except as a shield instead of AP?)? If it snapshots damage with a 20 second cooldown until the next 'shield', like I could see blizzard wanting to do with this ability (since Warlocks have arguably the best passive healing this side of shadow priest), its absolutely useless now.