1. #3221
    Quote Originally Posted by Sarevokcz View Post
    nef isnt really a good example, since, you know, they buffed nef after paragon stacked ferals...
    They fixed that fight with respect to two player abilities being vastly overpowered. There was no buff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sony View Post
    If you wanna use that kind of logic then look at previous Tier kills. You will notice that Method holds the numbers on ''being'' behind by days. Most notice is their World second Nefarian 25H where it took them 20 days to kill it after Paragon got the kill. So dont come and bash Blood Legion on lacking the skills. If we are using you logic then Method Lacked skills on many tiers back in the days.
    Please. Nefarian was hotfixed the day after their kill. Skill had nothing to do with our rankings, roster and management was the reason.

  3. #3223
    Quote Originally Posted by Archdruid Dehydrate View Post
    Blood Legion & vodka never swapped players, Proof please.
    Blood Legion did borrow raiders from Raiding Rainbows though, the second best guild on their server for Spine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sony View Post
    If you wanna use that kind of logic then look at previous Tier kills. You will notice that Method holds the numbers on ''being'' behind by days. Most notice is their World second Nefarian 25H where it took them 20 days to kill it after Paragon got the kill. So dont come and bash Blood Legion on lacking the skills. If we are using you logic then Method Lacked skills on many tiers back in the days.
    They did compared to the best. Blood Legion lost by a large margin on both Sha and Lei Shen. It seems they don't have that extra gear to get world first on the hardest encounters.

  5. #3225
    Quote Originally Posted by Reyzzz View Post
    go away, troll.

    It's only US first and even that is not something to be necessarily proud of.
    So as long as you aren't #1 you can't be proud? Pretty much every guild in the world would be proud to even kill Lei Shen on heroic, and here you're saying that US first isn't something to be proud of. What an attitude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reyzzz View Post
    Compared to Paragon and Method obviously.
    BL is probably behind method in many ways but still ahead of 10000 of guilds, i know theyre not racing but still they worked hard to get this kill, they worked harder than method and paragon compared to days. So even i dont like some in this guild its still a great achievment. Worldfirst guilds dont come easy, they need a long time to get there, but the motivation is there, thats important for start.
    Method would also not be there if not alot of guilds stopped raiding after t13 or Paragon didnt go 10 man. Look how long Method needed to grow into wf steps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedoso View Post
    Blood Legion did borrow raiders from Raiding Rainbows though, the second best guild on their server for Spine.
    Thats there server though, I was implying as if like a person from vodka left Alterac Mountains and went to Illidan than back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reyzzz View Post
    Compared to Paragon and Method obviously.
    and are you in paragon or method?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Archdruid Dehydrate View Post
    Blood Legion & vodka never swapped players, Proof please.

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    They went through 2 lockouts before killing Lei-Shen lots of loot.
    No they didn't swap. Just that Blood Legion "borrowed" two mages with DTR on H Spine from Raiding Rainbows. Not a big deal though, H Spine was like the easiest boss in T13 and 2 extra arcane DTR mages wouldn't make that much difference anyway. Comparatively Method are much more evil taking a rogue and a warlock for who knows what.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asdfsaf View Post
    method kill: Recorded Guild Item Level: 525.78 (25-man)
    bl kill: Recorded Guild Item Level: 528.22 (25-man)

    2.5 item levels higher, thats almost three additional heroic items per player.
    That says everything about Method, best WoW guild worldwide !

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    Quote Originally Posted by asdfsaf View Post
    method kill: Recorded Guild Item Level: 525.78 (25-man)
    bl kill: Recorded Guild Item Level: 528.22 (25-man)

    2.5 item levels higher, thats almost three additional heroic items per player.
    You act like their item level advantage wasn't earned, they have had that advantage since week 1 when they did 6 normal clears. I dont care what you say, that level of dedication is impressive, you cant fault them for having a higher item level. Most of Lei-Shen difficulty it appears is coming up with a good strat to get you into p3 with the best abilities up to allow you a chance to win. There are dozens of ways to do it, Method found a way to do it better, they solved the fight, very little to do with gear , and alot to do with getting the right strategy and committing to it.

  12. #3232
    Quote Originally Posted by jsz View Post
    They fixed that fight with respect to two player abilities being vastly overpowered. There was no buff.
    it was never about "fixing", the ability worked exactly like it should have, blizzard just didnt realize the potential of some abilities. Either way, it was a net buff. Hell, even paragon next reset with one more lockout of gear had huge trouble getting a rekill. But saying its "fair" to compare after the changes is like comparing Hodir HC and saying it was fair competition, after blizzard changed the cache time, twice.

  13. #3233
    Quote Originally Posted by gHouLwiNg View Post
    That says everything about Method, best WoW guild worldwide !
    Paragon had 523.5 item level when they killed it.
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    There is nothing better than a Khaleesi to motivate your Raiders.



    Gz to World 2nd or 3rd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mionelol View Post
    Still don't get the praise about the encounter other than "it's hard".
    Well, you may not get the praise, but almost everyone else does

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    Quote Originally Posted by OneSent View Post
    When all the Alliance guilds stop faction changing for the more competitive racials.

    Method were an Alliance guild since the beginning. But dem racials.
    they were horde on emeriss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinto View Post
    No they didn't swap. Just that Blood Legion "borrowed" two mages with DTR on H Spine from Raiding Rainbows. Not a big deal though, H Spine was like the easiest boss in T13 and 2 extra arcane DTR mages wouldn't make that much difference anyway. Comparatively Method are much more evil taking a rogue and a warlock for who knows what.
    Wow you spewing some crap. Seriously. Rogues and mages made all the difference on spine on 25man before it was nerfed. After the nerf, spine was still by far the most challenging encounter in DS. A shit encounter, but challenging. The pure raid cd management needed made it harder than the rest.

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    I would say congrats, but it was killed already by 2 other guilds. So I say good job

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    Quote Originally Posted by whirlwinds View Post
    they were horde on emeriss
    Different method.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Karlzone View Post
    Wow you spewing some crap. Seriously. Rogues and mages made all the difference on spine on 25man before it was nerfed. After the nerf, spine was still by far the most challenging encounter in DS. A shit encounter, but challenging. The pure raid cd management needed made it harder than the rest.
    Your sarcasm detector is broken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jinto View Post
    No they didn't swap. Just that Blood Legion "borrowed" two mages with DTR on H Spine from Raiding Rainbows. Not a big deal though, H Spine was like the easiest boss in T13 and 2 extra arcane DTR mages wouldn't make that much difference anyway. Comparatively Method are much more evil taking a rogue and a warlock for who knows what.

    You obviously never did heroic Spine if you really think it was "the easiest boss in T13". Either that or you never did the other fights on heroic.

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