Everlasting debate, should guys pay the tab?

[Preston Garvey]

Went out with a girl that I'm messing around with last night. Took her ass straight up to Mickey D's. When we got up to Mickey D's, I asked her what up with her half of the loot. She acted like I was speaking in Korean, LOL. She was like you can't even buy a girl a Big Mac, really? So now she's not speaking to me because I made her pay for own food. Do you think I was wrong for this because I did ask her out (shes hot.) But I did say let's go dutch first. Afterwards we were supposed to go to my house to watch Netflix and "more", when we got the food she was like take me home you’re full of “S”. She started chewing me out because I'm a guy (as she calls it) over a Big Mac. I feel like this is very petty what do you all think?
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A little bit of background:


My female friend called me last night and wanted to hang out at my place. As you know I'm a guy and when a girl asks to come over your house you say yes. Like a complete dumb-ass I asked her did she want to go to Mickey D's when she wanted to come over and cook. The reason I asked her this is because she likes McDonald's. Realizing I spoke too soon, I tried to come back at her and ask her to go dutch. Like you all may or may not know. I do not like to pay for women, no matter how cheap the food may be.

[Ratboy]

If you asked her out, you pay.

[Darsithis]

If I ask someone out, I pay. I don't split and I sure don't expect him to pay.

[Deleted]

If you ask someone out, I feel the one asking the person out should be the one paying.

[Tziva]

The person who does the asking pays. The other person should always at least offer. Gender not relevant.

After that, if you're dating regularly, you work out things in a way that satisfies both parties.

[Anjerith]

I feel like the OP is speaking krunk. I don't speak that horrible language, but I do (or did, prior to marriage) pay for a meal if I ask someone out, common decency.

[Themius]

Mistakes.

1) who takes a date to McDonald?
2) you both screwed up.

If you invite someone out you don't "make" them pay you do a dance.

[Ägallar]

Went out with a girl that I'm messing around with last night. Took her ass straight up to Mickey D's. When we got up to Mickey D's, I asked her what up with her half of the loot. She acted like I was speaking in Korean, LOL. She was like you can't even buy a girl a Big Mac, really? So now she's not speaking to me because I made her pay for own food. Do you think I was wrong for this because I did ask her out (shes hot.) But I did say let's go dutch first. Afterwards we were supposed to go to my house to watch Netflix and "more", when we got the food she was like take me home you’re full of “S”. She started chewing me out because I'm a guy (as she calls it) over a Big Mac. I feel like this is very petty what do you all think?

Generally, when you ask someone out, it is assumed that you will be treating them. Based on your language and surprise at her reaction, I'm guessing you're going to push any worthwhile girl away anyhow, so by all means, do whatever you feel like.

To clarify: I am not suggesting that men should always pay for women, or any other sexist generalization. Just suggesting that when you ask someone out, you shouldn't be surprised when they believe you are treating them, regardless of the sex or sexes of the individuals involved.

[Ecrulis]

Ok first off, yes you asked her out so you should pay.

Second, McDonalds? really? even in high school I had enough money to spring for a dinner for two at my local Pizzaria, Christ.

[Eldar45]

You should always pay for the woman's meal, especially if you ask them out. If she asks you out, then I'd say she could pay for her own.

[Preston Garvey]

You should always pay for the woman's meal, especially if you ask them out. If she asks you out, then I'd say she could pay for her own.

Are you serious what makes her so special how is she entitled to anything? your comment is the very reason I don't like paying for women..

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Ok first off, yes you asked her out so you should pay.

Second, McDonalds? really? even in high school I had enough money to spring for a dinner for two at my local Pizzaria, Christ.

yeah but the big macs are like $5 I don't see why she can't pay.

[Ecrulis]

Are you serious what makes her so special how is she entitled to anything? your comment is the very reason I don't like paying for women..

---------- Post added 2013-03-19 at 01:10 PM ----------

yeah but the big macs are like $5 I don't see why she can't pay.

While I agree the concept of always paying for a woman's meal is dated and archaic, the fact is you did ask her out, and to use her words, "You can't even buy a girl a Big Mac," honestly from your post I'm not surprised she dropped you like a bad habit.

[Eldar45]

Are you serious what makes her so special how is she entitled to anything? your comment is the very reason I don't like paying for women..

---------- Post added 2013-03-19 at 01:10 PM ----------

yeah but the big macs are like $5 I don't see why she can't pay.

Because above all else a woman has an overriding need to be taken care of by her man. If you don't show any initiative to do just that then you will be single for a long, long time. Its hardwired into their brain to think like this. They want someone who can take care of their children.

I'm a dude, and I know this.

And I mean damn, it was just a big mac, you can afford the 3 dollars. If you can't even pay for that on the FIRST DATE then you don't deserve the girl.

Truthfully, I would have taken her to a nice local diner first, not to a fast food joint.

[Themius]

Are you serious what makes her so special how is she entitled to anything? your comment is the very reason I don't like paying for women..

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yeah but the big macs are like $5 I don't see why she can't pay.

If she is one of those people who believes women should always be paid for (and her reaction seems to point to this) I wouldn't care and honestly I would have done it anyway just to piss her off; however, I still think you should have paid. Who picked the place and who asked them out?

"You can't pay for a girls bigmac" followed by a "nope" and making her pay is a very good reason for her to be unhappy.

[Preston Garvey]

Because above all else a woman has an overriding need to be taken care of by her man. If you don't show any initiative to do just that then you will be single for a long, long time. Its hardwired into their brain to think like this. They want someone who can take care of their children.

I'm a dude, and I know this.

dude this girl is a fling not my GF.
I've had several flings with this girl she's nothing serious.

[Eldar45]

dude this girl is a fling not my GF.
I've had several flings with this girl she's nothing serious.

Then you got nothing to worry about, but it looks like she thought it was more. I still would have bought her the burger, since she gave you a good time.

[CptAwesome]

Wow, $5 for an evening's entertainment and you get to fool around with a hot girl?

You must be pretty fucking broke to turn that one down...

[Grym]

Rule #1: If you ask a girl out (especially if you plan to get into her pants), you pay.
Rule #2: if she ask you out, bill is 50-50 (or you pay).

Mistake #1: Expect a girl to pay for her meal when you asked her out.
Mistake #2: Take a girl to McD for a meal.

If you insist on the way you think OP, that is fine, but expect women to behave like she did, and don't complain afterwards.

If you are OK for women to act like she did to you, then you are OK to act like how you have been.

[Preston Garvey]

Wow, $5 for an evening's entertainment and you get to fool around with a hot girl?

You must be pretty fucking broke to turn that one down...

lol,
it's the principle just the principle.

[Deleted]

The person who asks the other one out pays. No exceptions.