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  1. #81
    people don't want to do anything to get epics, that's why they do LFR

    that's also why every fight is being reduced to a dps race

    you can't be creative and keep the majority happy anymore

  2. #82
    It was a pain in the ass in classic and tbc, and it would be a pain in the ass nowadays too.
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  3. #83
    Quote Originally Posted by Slummish View Post
    While I believe that having to farm gear mats was annoying and slowed progression and having to do it all again when a raid member left and someone new took his place was tedious; it also added to the building of community and the cohesiveness of the guild and made players work together to help gear up their teammates. And more importantly, it gave the group something to strive for together that would give them an edge as a reward for their dedication week after week.
    What raiders often proudly call "community" is a kind of exclusion that is the reason that the raiding community is dying.

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