Out of touch? These guys where on a bus with her. She did not go out with them. You think she was attracted to them now?
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Uhm... That's still rape dude... You are insinuating she welcomed it?
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Well, on one hand you have people claiming 14 is plenty old to be out that late alone. Then you have people like you saying she is only a child, which is it? 14yr olds now adays are far more sexually advanced then our generation was when we were 14 (especially in the Netherlands, damn horndogs) i expect them to have common sense at least, that doesnt seem like much to ask.
So your assertion is... she didn't visibly put up a struggle, and so it couldn't possibly be rape? You're adopting an immensely reprehensible viewpoint with this. You're also trying to pretend that a 14 year old has the same mental maturity of an adult. You're also making an assumption that she is a liar solely on the basis that she is the victim. This is pretty classical victim blaming you're employing here.
He is saying it was not rape, until her friend stopped it. How it's not victim blaming at least there, I have no clue. Harsh...
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She is old enough to be on a bus with her friend at 10:30, but not old enough to have her being raped be blamed on her wanton desires.
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Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Against sole enemy i fear nothing for i do like they do - attack from behind. They deserve it, right?
Sure when people do it like in movies "I'm going to kill you John now. I waited for so long. blahblahblah" - they're owned. Never tell bad guy he's doing it wrong while he's consious(or dead in some cases).
Anyway. Do. Then think it over.
Yes, old enough to take the bus, but not old enough to have sex. Does your ability to take a bus from point a to point b, develop at the same time as your ability to handle sex? You seriously think, it takes the same cognitive ability, to take a bus and have sex?
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
I agree that they are two very different things to make a decision about. However, 14 is plenty old enough for sex at 14. I know what it was at 14. You'd have to be blind to think teens don't understand what sex is nor that they are capable of handling it. The real question is weather or not they have the correct judgement to have safe sex, which could be asked for many adults too.
Theres a reason they say don't talk to strangers. They say if you do, something bad will happen. Do people Really need a list to understand that Rape is a part of the bad things that could happen?
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
If it were common sense like you claim, than why do children have to be told that? The concept of statutory rape exists for a reason. Men and women below a certain point should be universally protected because they lack the neurological development and social knowledge that allows them to make fully educated and self-interested decisions. You are arbitrarily shifting the rough cutoff for that point several years away from where it is intended to be.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi