Will there ever be a MMORPG that defeats WoW?

[Drofdel]

Heavy is the head that wears the crown. Eventually, even the mighty will fall, though that day will not come anytime soon.

[RoninaThorstone]

Now that's interesting. What kind of "proof" do you expect? A judicial decree maybe? Can you "prove" the opposite?

You made the claim. You have to back it up.
Onus probandi.

[Azrile]

Hello, As title says, Will there ever be a MMORPG that defeats WoW? and if so, what company will make it?

Let the battle BEGIN!

It will never happen. The last few MMOs that have been made lost a ton of money by the big studios. SWTOR, Warhammer, AOC. No company is going to invest 50-150M for that much of a gamble. There will never be another subscription based game that hits 5M subscribers.

The only possibility is something like EVE.. a very small budget game that took 8 years to go from 10k to 400k subscribers, which is still nothing compared to WOW.

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This is a silly question. Of course there will be eventually. What it will be is anyone's guess, but we certainly haven't seen anything close yet.

The problem is that with every failure it is less and less likely that anyone will want to invest any amount of money into a real MMO. What company in their right mind, sitting on 100M is going to say ´hey, let´s try an MMO´... after seeing what happened to pretty much everything since WOW. SWTOR probably lost close to 50M dollars that they will never get back. AOC lost 25M dollars.

I think Elder Scrolls will be the last big house that releases a MMO. Not sure of their costs, but I would bet they aren´t going to break even.

[Raiju]

Responsiveness is basically the same as any other game.
The difference is that WoW has a graphical response everytime you click something, and then an action response when the server gets the action.
Everyone thinks the graphical (animation) response is the same as the action response, which is the actual action.

If you want to know, just lag yourself (download something or whatever immensely big consuming your bandwidth and increasing your latency), then go online, push a spell. Your animation starts, but note how long it actually takes for the spell to finish and actually cast.

Plenty of guides explaining how WoW handles combat more responsively than other contenders, and this is an extreme example that wouldn't apply to anyone capable of playing the game properly.

[Remilia]

Plenty of guides explaining how WoW handles combat more responsively than other contenders, and this is an extreme example that wouldn't apply to anyone capable of playing the game properly.

The example is to point out there's two components and people ignore the latter one.
Also what guide. The only technical guide I've seen is forcibly changing WoW's core usage to any core of your selecting.

[notorious98]

Or simply put, you're trying to talk your way out of obvious nonsense by stuttering yourself in even greater nonsense. It's amusing to read, though.

Nice deflection. Logical fallacy #1. Attacking the post instead of actually proving me wrong.

Now that's interesting. What kind of "proof" do you expect? A judicial decree maybe? Can you "prove" the opposite?

Logical fallacy #2. First, the onus to "prove" this is on you since you made the absolute statement that the game has the best gameplay and fluidity. Second, the onus is on you to prove the existence, not on me to prove the non-existence.

2 for 2 on logical fallacies. Cheers.

[Nyteyes]

I would say not likely. Not unless a company with enough resources can come out with a polished MMO that has not only a strong fan base but also strong, long history of lore as well as almost 8 years worth of content already built in to it.

[notorious98]

Also, lolvanishbug for 6 years.

Or my personal favorite. Every threshold in the game being Gandalf to your mage's Blink. "YOU....SHALL NOT.....PASS."

[Pull My Finger]

Nice deflection. Logical fallacy #1. Attacking the post instead of actually proving me wrong.




Logical fallacy #2. First, the onus to "prove" this is on you since you made the absolute statement that the game has the best gameplay and fluidity. Second, the onus is on you to prove the existence, not on me to prove the non-existence.

2 for 2 on logical fallacies. Cheers.

I'm clearly unimpressed, as generally with pretentious banter. Still amused though.

[notorious98]

I'm clearly unimpressed, as generally with pretentious banter. Still amused though.

Nobody is trying to "impress" you. As it is, your general lack of understanding of the English language is pretty unimpressive in its own right. Not to mention your clear inability to back up your claims. You're pretty good at logical fallacies though. That's #3 up there. At least you can look back and feel like you've accomplished something. Way to go, champ.

[celinamuna]

Yes. Titan (probably).

[cd1131]

I've always come back to WoW... None can compare!

[Pull My Finger]

Nobody is trying to "impress" you.

Oh, yes you are. Pretty young, huh.

You shouldn't be so angry about me liking WoW, it's not healthy.

[Phurox]

The next Blizzard MMORPG could.

Thing is, there's too many Blizzard fanboys that does not allow other dev's to succeed because they only want what Blizzard makes.

I myself cannot login anymore. Played since release, this game keeps feeling too old for me.

[bohapjut]

WoW is going to be dead once Warhammer Online comes out mark my words

But should defeating WoW really be the goal for an MMO to strive for?

[Mormolyce]

At the current rate WoW will be the only sub-based MMO on the market frankly.

WoW is going to be dead once Warhammer Online comes out mark my words

I laughed at this and then suddenly wasn't sure if it was a joke or not. That's the internet for you!

[PingPong]

[QUOTE=Dezarus;20769896]WoW is going to be dead once Warhammer Online comes out mark my words

lol that crack me up a bit.

maybe titan has a chance who know.

[Deleted]

Many of MMO's have already Beaten WoW for some people keep that in mind these things come down to the individual for example I know players that went to play rift/swtor that have enjoyed them so much they never returned to wow therefore "Those games defeated WoW for those people".

[Salech]

The developers of WoW will kill WoW, they have already showed it the last 2 years that they are very capable of killing i by themself.

[Drihan]

Inb4 "Titan will beat it"

Jokes aside, MMO genre was defined by WoW, nothing can beat it unless Blizzard themselves decide it will be taken down.

WoW did not define the MMO genre, WoW destroyed it and turned it into a festering cesspool of wanna-be pros, overly simplistic gameplay, and was the perfect environment to breed out this generation of MMO players; The Entitlement Generation. It stopped being a good game a long time ago, people still play it because they feel attached to the game after spending several years and tons of cash on it.