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    Frostbite Immunities

    edit: this OP is regarding Council Heroic, not normal. We're aware you can't immunity frostbite once you have the debuff.

    Prepping our tactic for council 10; we'll be 2 healing so it's extremely important to plot out our immunities correctly.

    Assuming the following work:

    Holydin: Bubble
    Mage: Ice block
    Moonkin: Cloak- symb
    Shaman: Ankh

    Do the following work?

    Hunter: Deterrence
    Moonkin: AMS -symb
    Warlock: Dark bargain???/other?
    Do monks have anything?

    I'm planning to aoe heal the 1st, immunity the 2nd and 3rd if possible; if not let the 3rd die and CR. Tips?
    Last edited by mmocd7449ed493; 2013-04-13 at 08:11 PM.

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    Deterrence does not work.

  3. #3
    Don't believe immunities work for frostbite.

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    Immunities only prevent the damage they DO NOT get rid of the debuff.

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    immunities will prevent the debuff.
    you have to use it between the second where you get the arrow above your head and you get the debuff (very short period of time).
    deterrence doesn't work. not sure about ams - symb, might.
    Don't think monks will ever get it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bals View Post
    immunities will prevent the debuff.
    you have to use it between the second where you get the arrow above your head and you get the debuff (very short period of time).
    deterrence doesn't work. not sure about ams - symb, might.
    Don't think monks will ever get it.
    (bolded part for above users.)

    You sure about the monks? I thought any ranged/healer could get it? Trying to eliminate rng from this, may be able to bench the hunter. any idea about warlocks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by oggyowl View Post
    (bolded part for above users.)

    You sure about the monks? I thought any ranged/healer could get it? Trying to eliminate rng from this, may be able to bench the hunter. any idea about warlocks?
    Monks are counted as melee, so they will never get it. (Healer is still considered melee)

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    Dark bargain does not work. It doesn't prevent debuffs from being applied, it only prevents damage from happening.

    Cloak works, our moonkin symb'd our rogue, I believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirque View Post
    Dark bargain does not work. It doesn't prevent debuffs from being applied, it only prevents damage from happening.

    Cloak works, our moonkin symb'd our rogue, I believe.
    Pain in the ass. Anything else a lock can do?

    Does Feign death work?
    Last edited by mmocd7449ed493; 2013-04-13 at 08:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cirque View Post
    Dark bargain does not work. It doesn't prevent debuffs from being applied, it only prevents damage from happening.

    Cloak works, our moonkin symb'd our rogue, I believe.
    Just a quick note here.

    (Moonkin) Cloak won't drop Frostbite, but it will get rid of Biting Cold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khamke View Post
    Just a quick note here.

    (Moonkin) Cloak won't drop Frostbite, but it will get rid of Biting Cold.
    Note we're talking about immunitying during the moment he's casting, when the arrow is on your head to immunity. it won't work when you already have the debuff.

    I'll change OP to reflect this is a discussion re the heroic version.

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    don't think locks have anything.
    you basically have to heal through it if someone gets it. it's not that bad.
    our raid comp has 2 tanks and 2 melee.
    person with frostbite moves between the melee group and tank group (each group can only soak for 8 seconds then you have to alternate).
    alternatively you can chain single target cooldowns and personals on that person

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    Quote Originally Posted by bals View Post
    don't think locks have anything.
    you basically have to heal through it if someone gets it. it's not that bad.
    our raid comp has 2 tanks and 2 melee.
    person with frostbite moves between the melee group and tank group (each group can only soak for 8 seconds then you have to alternate).
    alternatively you can chain single target cooldowns and personals on that person
    Were you 2 healing? (we have to atm due to our 2nd healers connection being bad, and we're only 505/513 ilvl respectively ) Did you have a tankadin? Any other tips would be helpful.

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    3 healed shammy, disc, pally
    2 tank monk, warrior.
    2 healing will be extremely rough on this fight. Kaz does tons of reflective damage when he's empowered

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    Night Elf racial of cowardness....does it work ?
    Also...do you have an answer about deterrence guys ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yhal View Post
    Night Elf racial of cowardness....does it work ?
    Also...do you have an answer about deterrence guys ?
    I gave an answer in the first reply, deterrence does not work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Secrecy View Post
    I gave an answer in the first reply, deterrence does not work.
    Ok, I asked again because most of the posters at the start of this thread did not even understood what we were talking about (preventing the debuff from being applied; not mitigating the damage once you have the debuff).
    So ty for your input if it was about the issue described by the OP

    edit: what about feign death ?

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    I would not reccommend 2 healing this fight

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