On 5.3, any player with a modicum of skill of any class can decimate warriors.
Also, demo warlocks don't have a counter. For everything any class can do, a warlock can counter it and more.
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Originally Posted by High Overlord Saurfangi7-6700 @2.8GHz | Nvidia GTX 960M | 16GB DDR4-2400MHz | 1 TB Toshiba SSD| Dell XPS 15
Yep, and for my money I think they hit quite a sweet spot in Season 7, but then it took a nosedive as if they stopped caring. But vanilla wasn't balanced worth shit.
The evidence is pretty clear.
As a warrior, Mages and Rogues counter us in Arena. As a duelling class, 5.2 is a low point, and arguing 1v1 balance is still silly in my mind, though I do feel it is important and directly effects 3v3 performance.
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as a warlock, destro: Only dk can decently counter me (op bp and the combination of fear, escape preventing and interupts).
as a warlock, demo: Maybe a destro lock, depending on if I send imps or not.
As an UH DK, I would say the classes that are most difficult for me to face are Monk (mostly due to ring of peace and insane mobility) and a Hunter who knows how to kite.
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As a Fire Mage, Hunters and Ferals eat me for breakfast. I eat Paladins and Warriors for breakfast.
I have a lot of trouble with Windwalker Monks, Unholy DKs, and Enhance Shamans but the fights are more balanced than hunter/feral.
5.2 Rogues are an excellent challenge - Im going 50/50 with good ones. Same with Warlocks, although Demo's are much tougher than Destro's (could be my tactics at fault for that).
As a WW monk; Demo locks, BM hunters, rogues (If competent), and frost mages counter me.
I counter Ele and Enh shams.
Everything else can beat me, though i would give monk the advantage in most cases.
How are rogues beating you? I'm interested to know as my rogue never beats monks (though my alt windwalker beats rogues). You can counter their every DPS cooldown because your defensive CDs are all shorter ( 45sec RoP vs 60sec shadowdance, 90sec karma vs 180sec shadowblades). Nimble brew vs their opener into a ring if needed, detox their paralytic before it stuns you and wear them down while using selfheals/fortifying brew/dampen harm. If they're on top of you with evasion, you can always paralyse and/or blossom them. If their resets are hurting you, invoke Xuen after their prep vanish and they're screwed.
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As a rogue, Locks. As a warrior, everything. As a spriest, locks and uh dk's~
Consistent problems?
Easy.
Rogues
Through my entire World of Warcraft career i've NEVER been able to handle a rogue.
Granted I haven't PvP'd at all in MoP but anywhere prior rogues have always dominated the control/escape scene, doesn't matter what you do, if the rogue has his cooldowns ready, you're fucked. He can do whatever he wants with you because he has a tool for every situation.
I fucking hate rogues.
I am countered hard by Ret paladins.
...said no one ever.
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Its certainly not a hard and fast rule, if he were not using Void Tendrils he'd stand a much better chance - but good vs good - it's about an even fight. If the priest is using Void Tendrils though that's pretty much useless versus a WW. Psyfiend will give you windows to heal up and set up DoTs once every 45 seconds, or with Dominate Mind you can run them to a cliff`, CC them, and throw them off - but with Void Tendrils, the fight probably favours the WW if anything.
Unholy DKs as a healer. They haven't stopped tunneling me since start of cata.
As an UH I agree with this we do strongly counter healers and casters, and I would say that is our main job in any pvp setting.
Of course saying that a mistweaver is the hardest healer for us to lock down, with disarm, ring of peace and that mobility it is quite easy to escape and have the necrotic stack fall off.