Legalize the Illegal Aliens?

[Elian]

YES if you favor the legalization of Illegal aliens under this new Immigration amnesty plan.
NO if you want the ILLEGALS to be deported.

if they did not include amnesty, but deportation,
i would have been in favor of this bill.
this bill will be defeated because republicans are in control of the house.

[chadwix]

Voted no. You shouldnt be rewarded for breaking the law while people are jumping through hoops legally.

[obdigore]

I voted yes just because of your obnoxious use of caps.

[LilSaihah]

you know what'd be super fuckin' nice

if people linked the goddamn shit they were talking about

i voted yes to spite you

[Zantos]

Im torn on this. On one hand they will not find all of the illegal aliens so easily to deport them. Thus, why they are still here. So you have them taking Benefits from legal citizens while also making money at a job. On the other hand, if we do grant them legal status, they would at least stop sucking away our resources and start paying into it. Honestly, Its a lose/lose situation. They need to double their efforts since Obviously atm they suck at spotting illegals and removing them. If they aren't going to learn how to deport them already, just give them legal status. That way, they will start paying into the system sooner rather then seeing how much more hundreds of thousands they suck away while we wait for them to possibly be deported.

[Simca]

Removed capitalization in poll/title and fixed spelling (because tons of people would complain about it).

As for the poll, I voted Yes. Deporting tens of thousands of people is a nice idea in a fantasy world but the real world logistics make it just completely ridiculous. That would be an incredibly massive waste of money, and it would just go over awful all around. There are just so many ways it could go wrong and so many ways it is a bad idea overall.

They can't just do one thing though. They need to do multiple things at once:
1. Legalize current illegals
2. Step up border security
3. Deal with future illegals more harshly (more deportation)

If they JUST legalize current illegals, it does nothing except increase the frequency of illegal immigration, so I hope the plan calls for multiple courses of action because they -must- dissuade future illegal immigrants from coming here. If the penalties are harsh and getting here is nearly impossible and we flat out say 'no more illegals will be legalized after this', there is literally zero incentive for them to come here anymore.

[Flatspriest]

I voted no. If they want to be legalized, then they need to go about the legal way from the start to come into the country. If they come in illegally, then they are asking for deportation. Several years back, I lived in California and in a statewide vote, the citizens of that state said they wanted to do away with providing welfare and other benefits to those who were in the country illegally. It passed by a large margin. Then, the state supreme court said it was unconstitutional for the state to stop funding those who were here illegally. If a very large majority of legal citizens vote it in, how is that unconstitutional? Why would a court even rule on such a thing?

[artemishunter1]

YES if you favor the legalization of Illegal aliens under this new Immigration amnesty plan.
NO if you want the ILLEGALS to be deported.

if they did not include amnesty, but deportation,
i would have been in favor of this bill.
this bill will be defeated because of republicans are in control of the house.

Protect the border, but maintain the status quo (don't deport unless crimes is committed). If you provide amnesty, then make sure everyone who had been waiting on the list from every country to date, is given automatic visa and a green card. Just giving amnesty to illigal is evil as you are putting law breakers ahead of people who did not break the law. If separating family is your argument, I have not seen my family since 10 years. They are still waiting on line to come to the U.S. Fix this before amnesty.

[DEATHETERNAL]

If we secure the border, I would support some pathway to citizenship involving stringent restrictions on government benefits and higher taxes for some period of time for those illegals here. I will not support any large scale legalization before the border is secured otherwise the flow of illegals will simply become larger in expectation of more legalization. Already saw it once in 1986.

[artemishunter1]

Removed capitalization in poll/title and fixed spelling (because tons of people would complain about it).

As for the poll, I voted Yes. Deporting tens of thousands of people is a nice idea in a fantasy world but the real world logistics make it just completely ridiculous. That would be an incredibly massive waste of money, and it would just go over awful all around. There are just so many ways it could go wrong and so many ways it is a bad idea overall.

They can't just do one thing though. They need to do multiple things at once:
1. Legalize current illegals
2. Step up border security
3. Deal with future illegals more harshly (more deportation)

If they JUST legalize current illegals, it does nothing except increase the frequency of illegal immigration, so I hope the plan calls for multiple courses of action because they -must- dissuade future illegal immigrants from coming here. If the penalties are harsh and getting here is nearly impossible and we flat out say 'no more illegals will be legalized after this', there is literally zero incentive for them to come here anymore.

Amnesty is even more logistical nightmare. Illigal by definition is well fare user. You really want to provide welfare to them in this economy even when they have multiple children? Just maintaining the status quo while enforcing the borders is the only justifiable way.

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High taxes on illigal? Illigals by definition don't have much money to begin with

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Im torn on this. On one hand they will not find all of the illegal aliens so easily to deport them. Thus, why they are still here. So you have them taking Benefits from legal citizens while also making money at a job. On the other hand, if we do grant them legal status, they would at least stop sucking away our resources and start paying into it. Honestly, Its a lose/lose situation. They need to double their efforts since Obviously atm they suck at spotting illegals and removing them. If they aren't going to learn how to deport them already, just give them legal status. That way, they will start paying into the system sooner rather then seeing how much more hundreds of thousands they suck away while we wait for them to possibly be deported.

Illigals when made legal will never pay into the system because they are poor. they do not have money to begin with. Their taxes are laughable. The only reason illigal family works in the state is that multiple members earn money that is equal to one legal citizen earning. Which is why they are hired more. Though one thing i will give them is that they are very hard worker, far more than typical American, but they working for less money takes jobs and hours away from legal manual laborers like the asians.

[GreatOak]

I like Sen. Rand Paul's plan for handling illegal immigrants. After that I would like to make it easier for people to legally immigrate here or stay after attending a university.

[Wells]

Its neither possible or desirable to get rid of them. Leaves us one feasible option.

[obdigore]

I like Sen. Rand Paul's plan for handling illegal immigrants. After that I would like to make it easier for people to legally immigrate here or stay after attending a university.

I assume his plan is to make them slaves to real citizens?

This could be construed as me asking you to link his plan since I've not seen it :P

[Sunseeker]

Deportation is not a real solution. If it was, we wouldn't have the illegal immigrant problem we do now. Clearly rounding them up and deporting them hasn't worked, why should we expect a strategy that has done nothing but fail, to suddenly succeed?

I support amnesty for the simply reason that it's the only real option.

I also support reworking our immigration system to be more effective.

[chrisberb]

What a bogus poll, there is no amnesty bill being considered

[SaburoDaimando]

I voted Yes. But only because our Legalization system is completely broken. Not to mention wait times to even be legalized takes more than 20 years.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...g-as-24-years/

And believe it or not, Ronald Reagan himself(Back when he was president) actually approved Amnesty. http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...id-the-a-word/ Even if he did wind up regretting it, he actually did it.

[artemishunter1]

Deportation is not a real solution. If it was, we wouldn't have the illegal immigrant problem we do now. Clearly rounding them up and deporting them hasn't worked, why should we expect a strategy that has done nothing but fail, to suddenly succeed?

I support amnesty for the simply reason that it's the only real option.

I also support reworking our immigration system to be more effective.

You think amnesty succeds? That it would stop illigal immigration? News flash Reagan did an amnesty already. Did it succeed?

[Kraenen]

Voted no. You shouldnt be rewarded for breaking the law while people are jumping through hoops legally.

You think all/most illegal aliens are plagued with adventitious associations?

[chrisberb]

I voted Yes..although i'm not for blanket amnesty, I am however for a pathway to citizenship.

[Wells]

You think amnesty succeds? That it would stop illigal immigration? News flash Reagan did an amnesty already. Did it succeed?

Amnesty is for dealing with the people who are hear, not for stopping people from getting in.