Possible Expansion Leak

[mvaliz]

I'm just not buying the whole "tinkerer" concept...

If there was such a thing as a "support" class, than sure.

Not to mention it TOTALLY clashes with an actual in-game profession of "Engineering". One would say "complements" - but IMO that leads to a possibility of having a class that DEPENDS on maximizing itself based on one specific pre-determined profession.

But here are also the practicalities of adding in a new class

1) adding yet a WHOLE new set of talent trees and abilities that will FOREVER be tweaked in balance with 11 existing characters.
2) You're now FOREVER committed to making a 12th PVP set and 12th Raid tier set design from now until the servers shut down.
3) You have to make the gameplay ORIGINAL enough to feel separate from every other class while still trying to make it fun.

A fourth spec is far more likely than a new character, especially considering how simplified the specs currently are. Who lot less balance issues you have to deal with and a whole lot less future work.

...and that's EVEN IF they do a fourth spec.

Chances are that the easiest solution would be to simply add in a new "neutral" race and call it a day. Only thing you have to worry about are starting zones, animation and racial traits. And when they're done - THEY'RE DONE - no more going back to them.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

thanks for pointing that out. still it doesnt make my point invalid. we need a class based on "technology", which is pretty unique.

Blizz picks based on what fits and what players want.

Show me a poll where Demon Hunter doesn't win.

[Baladash]

Blizz picks based on what fits and what players want.

Show me a poll where Demon Hunter doesn't win.

http://www.neopets.com/add_poll.phtml

this whole page has them

edit: On topic, I think a Tinker class would be interesting and completely unique if done right but odds are its probably going to be boring old Demon Hunter.

[Auxis]

There´s never gonna be a 4th spec for all classes. Never. Mark my words.

- Never say never.
- You seem VERY sure of yourself.
- Blizz has pulled bigger stunts (such as MoP).

- What are you willing to bet?

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

http://www.neopets.com/add_poll.phtml

this whole page has them

Alright, good manipulation of my wording.

I mean polls of desired WoW classes. DH always wins by demanding margins, and tinkerer doesn't always take second.

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- Never say never.
- You seem VERY sure of yourself.
- Blizz has pulled bigger stunts (such as MoP).

- What are you willing to bet?

Because GC even said all rogue specs feel the same.

[Auxis]

Alright, good manipulation of my wording.

I mean polls of desired WoW classes. DH always wins by demanding margins, and tinkerer doesn't always take second.

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Because GC even said all rogue specs feel the same.

And if they were to add say a healer spec for a rogue, how would that be the same as combat, sub or assassination?
Just for an example.

[ShadowJester]

Warrior: Barbarian: dual wield tank
Mage: Blood Mage: health steal healer
Rogue: Ranged DPS, sniper or throwing weapons. The icon is cause you have to have super nerves and reflexes to do it....duh
Hunter: Warden, petless melee dps
Shaman: Earth based tank
Priest: Shadow/Twilight Heals
Warlock: Demon form tanking (not ever a demon hunter)
Paladin: Caster DPS
Death Knight: Caster DPS
Monk: Caster DPS

Tinker: Oil bubbles - Oil powered machine armor Tank Spec, Purple lightning - Caster dps based around lasers, Greensplosion - Alchemist Healer with heal grenades, and Missiles - Missile/explosion Ranged Physical DPS

But the lack of a Crane looking icon for Monk makes me sad / feel this is fake.

Though I super hope Blizz does add a new class and 4th spec, just so all of you have to be like "Oh wow, Blizz is awesome and we all just nay say"

[Frozenbeef]

imagine how much balancing they would need to do if they add a new class and a new spec for each class :S

[Monkiy]

Alright, good manipulation of my wording.

I mean polls of desired WoW classes. DH always wins by demanding margins, and tinkerer doesn't always take second.

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Because GC even said all rogue specs feel the same.

It's not always about what the player wants though. I agree that Demon Hunters have been in demand for quite a while, but how long has that been exactly and why don't we have them then? They've said multiple times that a Demon Hunter class probably isn't reasonable because it would be so close to what the Warlock class already is (see Metamorphosis) with elements of the Rogue class. Thematically it would fit if the next expansion was focused on the Burning Legion, but I don't know that the mechanics of the class would work out very well.

Polls on sites like this aren't even a good indication of the wants of the playerbase. These forums could be drastically different from the WoW forums, and within that the US and EU forums could even be at odds. Extend that to every forum about WoW out there and you're going to get a lot of different opinions about subjective things like this.

[wariofan1]

While it would be awesome, it's a really poor backstory to the whole thing, just screams of "fake rumor."

Plus, if it was legit, the thread would have been taken down in a matter of few minutes at maximum.

Few things I noticed:

The Monk and Tinker class icons are of higher quality than the rest of the icons.

The new Death Knight spec's icon is exactly the same as the Blood spec icon but with different saturation to make it purple.

I recognize all of these icons from in-game except for the new Priest and Warlock ones, and I'm sure they are in there somewhere.

Not much to see here, even though it's a likable idea.

[Sterilize]

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...3259?page=3#58

The guy just took ideas from a thread he was involved in on May 1st.

[Kuja]

'"These are a compilation of ideas the team's been working on that I've been telling you about. Tell me what you think, and I'll send you a followup in a few minutes."

The next expansion has been in development for years already, and it's getting announced soon too. They aren't "working on ideas" anymore, especially not on a fourth spec. Planning on it this late would not be smart. And the icons are placeholders too that are already in the game, so I don't understand why a dev would be sending that picture to anyone, especially a wrong person.

Still, they need something new and interesting to prevent the massive sub losses. 4th spec would just do that.

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...3259?page=3#58

The guy just took ideas from a post he was involved in on May 1st.

That explains it, great find! Seemed like a lame troll too

[Deleted]

I got that email too, but he responded to me, here's the info:
http://imgur.com/ZcjsYBP

[Deleted]

So fake, blizz would obviously at least make new icons, then use old ones lol. And I agree that 4th spec for every class will never make it into game.

[mk4]

http://www.wowpedia.org/File:Spell_f...uefirenova.png

[Immitis]

I got that email too, but he responded to me, here's the info:
http://imgur.com/ZcjsYBP

seems legit

[Deleted]

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/forum/to...3259?page=3#58

the guy just took ideas from a thread he was involved in on may 1st.

haha busted!

[Amuramie]

The new icons aren't thematic with each class's current icons, someone just slapped this together. Not to mention that GC is always going on and on about how hard it is to balance as many specs as exist currently. I'm voting super fake.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

haha busted!

Busted. Time to close the thread before it devolves into the same old "Tinkerer VS Demon Hunter" thread.

[Myzou]

You know, Blizzard constantly says the biggest issue with adding a new class is balancing 3 new specs.

Do you honestly think they'd add a new class and 4th specs in the same expansion?

Yea, cause balancing 14 new specs is totally easy.