I cried alone every single night. It felt like every day that passed here stole another piece of my real life away. After i cried, I’d go and fight as hard as I could. My only thought was winning, moving forward, and getting stronger. — Asuna Yuuki
I cried alone every single night. It felt like every day that passed here stole another piece of my real life away. After i cried, I’d go and fight as hard as I could. My only thought was winning, moving forward, and getting stronger. — Asuna Yuuki
Defo lower.
Game is close to 9 years old, competition is stiffer, almost all of the competition is F2P or B2P.
That doesn't always mean anything though. I mean Guild Wars 2 is an awesome F2P game but I see more people coming back to WoW now just because they miss the 'WoW' feeling. I almost gave up on WoW because of people and friends that left the game. But more of my guildies and RL friends are returning and it's making the game fun again! I don't care if it's getting old At least it's not abandoned!
I cried alone every single night. It felt like every day that passed here stole another piece of my real life away. After i cried, I’d go and fight as hard as I could. My only thought was winning, moving forward, and getting stronger. — Asuna Yuuki
i expect the drop to be 1mil + tbh.
Asia will prob have a smaller drop as prev. quarter.
But this time arround i expect a large drop on the west aswell.
Many people underestimate the dying servers and the lack of merges. WoW currently has WAAAY to many server for the activity it has.
"There is a pervasive myth that making content hard will induce players to rise to the occasion. We find the opposite. " -- Ghostcrawler
"The bit about hardcore players not always caring about the long term interests of the game is spot on." -- Ghostcrawler
"Do you want a game with no casuals so about 500 players?"
I have this theory that Blizzard have deliberately made a big deal of the sub loses and have made sure they get a lot of coverage for it, so that more people will start talking about the game and more ex-players will get nostalgic or miss the game and want to resub.
As for Q2, I think 7-8M sounds like a realistic estimate.
Oh look a statement by the OP of this thread talking about "Crapcraft" and promoting other games with ZERO subscriptions.
NADA, ZERO, NOIGHT, NULL, NILL, NUL, subscriptions in these other copycats but the hate dude wants to know active paid subs in what he calls "Crapcraft"
The OP: what a loser. Reported.
Keep it civil please.
Last edited by Zaelsino; 2013-05-17 at 12:58 PM.
You lost the discussion.
Why? Because Blizzard is a stock rated company and the first quarter published showedthe MMO part brought in ... 240 million dollars.
So your 3 million western subs "guess" is wrong since 3 million would NEVER bring in 240 million bucks in 3 months.
Btw: Blizzard as a stock rated company can not lie about that revenue.
OWNED and in a Big way even.
Get lost hater.
At LEAST one million lower, down to 7.3mil.
Even back in its heyday, some people used to quit WoW in May for the summer. This alongwith the downward spiral WoW has entered will probably fetch a substantial decrease in subs. An additional one million subs lost (about 12% of what Blizzard claim to be their cuurent sub base) is reasonable and even conservative.
Veteran vanilla player - I was 31 back in 2005 when I started playing WoW - Nostalrius raider with a top raid guild.
Oh man: go to the official wbsite of the company and as a stock rated company, the documents of every quarter is free to download.
Up and including 2012, the WoW part has always shown a +1 billion dollar revenue per year.
These figures are AUDITED and controlled by INDEPENDANT international auditors like The Deutsche Bank etc..
So before posting crap: inform yourself about the money stream of WoW. It really is well documented over there.
Also interesting: the 15 dollar sub is NOT universal in the western world too as countries like Russia pay only 9 dollars per month.
Even SUB cards do not bring in 15 dollars, as they are sold RETAIL, which means only 50% goes go Blizzard (rest is retail).
So you were OWNED by Blizzard's own revenue reports.
UNLESS you think Blizzard is into some illegal Columbian drug dealing: the MONEY revenue IS there to prove those 8 million subs spread.
"There is a pervasive myth that making content hard will induce players to rise to the occasion. We find the opposite. " -- Ghostcrawler
"The bit about hardcore players not always caring about the long term interests of the game is spot on." -- Ghostcrawler
"Do you want a game with no casuals so about 500 players?"
No, not confused, just copiously mad and refusing to see outside the play safe bubble.
Agreed. Doesn't mean WoW is a bad game or anything, but it does mean that 8.3 million is a PR number. You'll only ever see half, if that, during your tenure as a subscriber.
Why do you care how many play the game??? Play the game coz you like it...
I really don't understand these threads...
Who cares if the game loses their subs...
I don't see why people deem subscription numbers as irrelevant; they're an important and useful gauge of how attractive both the content is, and Blizzard's measures of keeping people playing. With that in mind, MoP has been performing surprisingly poorly over all; it has had the usual, new expansion spike after the subscription losses seen in Cataclysm, yet now we're on the slippery slope once more.
Truthfully i'm not sure why, but i'd put it down to two things;
1) Blizzard thinking that dailies = exciting/engaging/legitimate content
2) Patches having less content than things would seem
This excludes external factors such as competition.
Gaap: 275 million dollars in one quarter
Non gaap: 228 million dollars in one quater.
So with 3 million "only" you'll fall short.
Now ADD the fact that several countries don't pay 15 dollars for a sub (eastern EU)
AND A SUB CARD is sold retail with only 50% going to Blizzard,
You see that 8.3 million world wide subs is quite accurate to justity the amounts.
As always has been btw. I always won these discussions.
Easy really since Blizzard has open books for their stockholders and I am one of them.
Last edited by BenBos; 2013-05-17 at 11:51 AM.