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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by Snuzzfizzle View Post
    You don't get anywhere near this kind of vengeance on any fight aside from dark animus heroic and maybe grand empress heroic, though.
    Especially not on a fight like Galleon.
    Yeah, I'd have to see the fight to buy this.

    to the OP, you can put the video link with spaces instead of periods

  2. #22
    Quote Originally Posted by Snuzzfizzle View Post
    You don't get anywhere near this kind of vengeance on any fight aside from dark animus heroic and maybe grand empress heroic, though.
    Especially not on a fight like Galleon.
    those wormage will grant you the vengeance you need, just 400k to break the enrage timer.

  3. #23
    There's absolutely no way this could possibly be true, the numbers don't remotely add up.

    Also why is the game suddenly broken even if this is true (which it isn't)? DK's have been doing stuff on par in ridiculousness for a long time now.

  4. #24
    What's the point in crying about it? So they can solo a world boss with nothing useful on it anymore. How does this impede your gameplay?

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    Really this sounds like the old invincimonks in GW xD

    To the naysayyers, I haven't seen a video myself, but to allow them to survive to the vengeance points where healing and damage done are absurd, a lvl 80 with the right twink items gets some pretty crazy numbers due to scaling. Add this ontop of starting off the battle with holy avenger up, using judgement to get 3 HoPo, smashing a ShotR, taking...idk how much less damage but if mastery is as broken as I've seen before, then it definitely could be nearing 100% less damage taken, for 30ish seconds straight. by then sacred shield, seal of insight, and ShotR are just going to be all overkill

  6. #26
    Quote Originally Posted by Mormolyce View Post
    EDIT: post out of date, delete please.
    You can delete it yourself from the edit screen.

    I get a maximum of ~120-150k vengeance from Galleon. That is nowhere near enough for SoI to keep me alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncanîdaho View Post
    Well GC tweeted recently that they are working on nerfing vengeance. That would prevent this sort of thing I would think as vengeance would have given him the dps needed while solo. Mind you he specifically only stated in 10 mans and 25's. Hopefully they realize they need a nerf for the world itself too for this reason.
    Only in raid instances. Or at least everything said so far (unless I'm missing something) implies that the vengeance change would be a raid change only.

  8. #28
    Quote Originally Posted by RoKPaNda View Post
    Only in raid instances. Or at least everything said so far (unless I'm missing something) implies that the vengeance change would be a raid change only.
    If you are taking enough damage to be at more than 150k attack power from Vengeance, you need a healer and you'll die when your cooldowns expire.

  9. #29
    Quote Originally Posted by Nafrayu View Post
    Really this sounds like the old invincimonks in GW xD

    To the naysayyers, I haven't seen a video myself, but to allow them to survive to the vengeance points where healing and damage done are absurd, a lvl 80 with the right twink items gets some pretty crazy numbers due to scaling. Add this ontop of starting off the battle with holy avenger up, using judgement to get 3 HoPo, smashing a ShotR, taking...idk how much less damage but if mastery is as broken as I've seen before, then it definitely could be nearing 100% less damage taken, for 30ish seconds straight. by then sacred shield, seal of insight, and ShotR are just going to be all overkill
    This is so like 6 months ago.

  10. #30
    Quote Originally Posted by Butler Log View Post
    If you are taking enough damage to be at more than 150k attack power from Vengeance, you need a healer and you'll die when your cooldowns expire.
    oh, they prove the link for video, you can watch yoursefl now.
    only 400k+ vengeance is needed.

  11. #31
    Quote Originally Posted by RoKPaNda View Post
    Only in raid instances. Or at least everything said so far (unless I'm missing something) implies that the vengeance change would be a raid change only.
    That's what I meant by "he specifically only stated in 10 and 25 mans". If this is true though, it would probably be a good idea to look into nerfing it for the world itself too though is what I was saying. The overall opinion seems to be its not true anyway.
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  12. #32
    Even if this were true, don't really think it would require a nerf. Not like soloing Galleon really gets you anything you couldn't easily get in any of the rare group pugs every week. The most unbelievable part is that he actually managed to solo it without heaps of people turning up and joining in lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Butler Log View Post
    You can delete it yourself from the edit screen.

    I get a maximum of ~120-150k vengeance from Galleon. That is nowhere near enough for SoI to keep me alive.
    Thanks, found it. Stupid advanced options!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snuzzfizzle View Post
    This is so like 6 months ago.
    May be the case, but it seems to be alive and well.

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    All content gets solo'd eventualy, if this was posted a day after xpack release I would have worried. but its 3 patches into the xpack I am amazed it has not started earlier.

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    im more amazed that he wasnt swarmed with people the second he spawned. on my current realm, the moment galleon spawns he is ganked by at least 4 groups, and there are always people camping him.

  16. #36
    Quote Originally Posted by Nafrayu View Post
    May be the case, but it seems to be alive and well.
    You're not understanding; Vengeance was capped at max health so that 80s couldn't do weird things with Mastery scaling. They also changed Mastery scaling for lvl 80 and 85, in conjunction with the Vengeance cap change.

    I still don't buy the Galleon solo, though we all know about the Elegon solo, which is NO LONGER POSSIBLE.

  17. #37
    Quote Originally Posted by Thirtyrock View Post
    You're not understanding; Vengeance was capped at max health so that 80s couldn't do weird things with Mastery scaling. They also changed Mastery scaling for lvl 80 and 85, in conjunction with the Vengeance cap change.

    I still don't buy the Galleon solo, though we all know about the Elegon solo, which is NO LONGER POSSIBLE.
    How do you not buy it? The video is right on the OP's message. Watch it, its legit. Pallies and DK's are the solo kings and this doesnt surprise me at all

  18. #38
    Quote Originally Posted by TheAlster View Post
    How do you not buy it? The video is right on the OP's message. Watch it, its legit. Pallies and DK's are the solo kings and this doesnt surprise me at all
    Missed the video, wasn't up earlier. Will look at it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Thirtyrock View Post
    Missed the video, wasn't up earlier. Will look at it.
    Interesting...

    He has 2 priests in his group; Isn't it possible to hide the buffs you get from others, to not have them display? If that IS the case, then isn't it possible that he was getting heals but managed the dps by himself?

    This is speculation, I don't remember if you can have buffs from others not display or not.

  19. #39
    Just tried it with my ilvl 539 prot paladin and a holy paladin. I died around 90%.
    MAYBE it's possible with the higher item levels and 2p/4p prot but the damage I took with Galleon and ~12 adds was already insane.
    Vengeance wasn't nearly high enough to keep me up by myself.

  20. #40
    Quote Originally Posted by Snuzzfizzle View Post
    Just tried it with my ilvl 539 prot paladin and a holy paladin. I died around 90%.
    MAYBE it's possible with the higher item levels and 2p/4p prot but the damage I took with Galleon and ~12 adds was already insane.
    Vengeance wasn't nearly high enough to keep me up by myself.
    It is in Asia, don't they get higher Ilvl gear from 25 mans?

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