New Generation, New Comp

[Deleted]

Since the new CPU generation is here, it's time for me to put together a new comp. It will be used to mostly play WoW, some streaming, and all the new games (BF4, Watch Dog, etc...) on high/ultra.

Budget
~$2500
Resolution
1920x1080
Games / Settings Desired
High - Ultra
Any other intensive software or special things you do (Frequent video encoding, 3D modeling, etc)
Video editing and some graphic design (Adobe After Effect, Photoshop, etc..)
Country
US
Parts that can be reused
None
Do you need an OS?
Yes, preferably Windows 7
Do you need peripherals (e.g. monitor, mouse, keyboard, speakers, etc)?
no

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($349.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($188.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: GeIL EVO Veloce Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($104.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX Titan 6GB Video Card ($1023.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake VL800P1W2N (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.12 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($100.41 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.49 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Professional (OEM) (64-bit) ($130.77 @ Amazon)
Total: $2286.20
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-04 02:28 EDT-0400)

That should, in theory, blow everything out of the water. The i7 and Titan are there mostly because of the video editing, and the first place you could (maybe should) save money (by going for the 4670k and GTX780, respectively.) I put Windows 8 Pro on there, but again, that can easily be changed for Win7 (either Home Premium or Ultimate, though Ult costs more.)

[Deleted]

List looks good. How's the performance for Titan comparing to 780 (on games and the programs I listed above)?

[vesseblah]

How's the performance for Titan comparing to 780 (on games and the programs I listed above)?

On games the difference is around 10%, on programs that can take full advantage of titan for math it can be easily ten times faster or even more. I think Adobe products use only CUDA not the compute features so you'd be seeing about 30% improvement in GPU assisted rendering. Unless you spend hours each day on working with After Effects I wouldn't even consider Titan over GTX780 because of the price difference.

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On games the difference is around 10%, on programs that can take full advantage of titan for math it can be easily ten times faster or even more. I think Adobe products use only CUDA not the compute features so you'd be seeing about 30% improvement in GPU assisted rendering. Unless you spend hours each day on working with After Effects I wouldn't even consider Titan over GTX780 because of the price difference.

That's why I added that bit at the end about cost-reduction- because, sure, the Titan's within budget, but it's a lot to blow if you're not gonna use it.

[Deleted]

I don't want to create a new thread, but my brother also asked me to build him a new PC. His budget is lower than mine at around 1500-1800$. Here's what I'm thinking:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($78.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($659.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-F12 PWM 55.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-F12 PWM 55.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($88.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.49 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1795.33
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-04 14:46 EDT-0400)

Will probably replace 780 with a 770 for his.

About my set up, I'll probably order the 780 once it's in stock at newegg over titan. If they don't have it by the end of the week, I'll just go with the titan then.

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Why would you pay $350 extra to have the Titan logo on your GPU because that's more or less all you do. For the 2nd build just get a 770 for single monitor 1080p there is no reason really going any higher.

[Ogawdspider]

Even at single monitor 1080p if he is doing streaming/video editing shouldn't he stick with the i7 and the 780?

[blargh312]

$30 each for case fans is a little ridiculous don't you think?

[Hellravager]

Amazing performance and stunning visuals at their best. Get top-of-the-line performance for your most demanding tasks with a 4th generation Intel® Core™ i7 processor. For a difference you can see and feel in HD and 3D, multitasking and multimedia. Taken from the intel site for i7 so yea stick with i7 for video editting and all that major stuff as for titan theres no real point its going to be obsolete in 1 year so why spend 1000 on it when theres other parts in your computer you could spend the extra money on. Other parts besides a graphics card can easily last awhile but with graphic cards not so much.

[yurano]

Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($78.98 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-F12 PWM 55.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-F12 PWM 55.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($26.99 @ Newegg)

The memory is a little on the expensive side since its 1866 rather than the standard 1600.

Super expensive case fans. Fractal cases have 140mm mounts so it would be better to go for 140mm fans.

[Killora]

I don't want to create a new thread, but my brother also asked me to build him a new PC. His budget is lower than mine at around 1500-1800$. Here's what I'm thinking:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($249.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($78.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($159.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($64.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB Video Card ($659.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 w/Window (Black Pearl) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-F12 PWM 55.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Noctua NF-F12 PWM 55.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($26.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($88.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($18.49 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1795.33
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-06-04 14:46 EDT-0400)

Will probably replace 780 with a 770 for his.

About my set up, I'll probably order the 780 once it's in stock at newegg over titan. If they don't have it by the end of the week, I'll just go with the titan then.

Good build. I'd drop the memory to 1600mhz rather than 1866. 1600 vs 1866 won't provide any benefit.

And honestly, i'd use the same build for yourself except maybe a i7 instead of an i5 if you feel you need the added performance for video editing and modeling. Otherwise, the 780 is within 10% of the titan, and unless you spend hours every day working on adobe after effect ( i doubt you do ) then i'd just stick with the 780 for yourself.

Just because one has a high budget doesn't mean you need to max it out.

[Deleted]

Even at single monitor 1080p if he is doing streaming/video editing shouldn't he stick with the i7 and the 780?

My Titan vs 780 comment was for his own build. The 780 vs 770 comment was for his brothers build. So as you can see he is sticking with the i7. the second build (i5) is for his brother if I understand correctly.

[Deleted]

The fans are to set up the H100i for a push/pull configuration. The difference between a 1600 mhz and 1866 mhz is like 10 bucks unless someone got any cheap ram recommendation

Edit:

My Titan vs 780 comment was for his own build. The 780 vs 770 comment was for his brothers build. So as you can see he is sticking with the i7. the second build (i5) is for his brother if I understand correctly.

You're right. The i7 build is for me, and the i5 is for my brother.

[Killora]

The fans are to set up the H100i for a push/pull configuration. The difference between a 1600 mhz and 1866 mhz is like 10 bucks unless someone got any cheap ram recommendation

Patriot Signature 1600 mhz 2x4gb

I mean, $28 savings. not anything major, especially not at that pricepoint. But with 1866 it might aswell be $28 thrown into the street.

Unless Haswell really benefits more from memory clock speed. I haven't honestly looked into it. But i seem to doubt it's too much better for games.

[a21fa7c67f26f6d49a20c2c51]

Creative suite is CPU bound and memory bound far more than it's GPU bound.
Here are a handful of benchmarks:

1. http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/art...eleration-161/
2. http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/art...eleration-162/
3. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/...on,3474-2.html
4. http://legitreviews.com/article/2127/
5. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...zx=4b87cbodocm
(op mentioned FCP so I assume he's considering hacking Mac OS X onto his PC)

Notice how good/fast cards (like the GTX680) performs on-par with much slower cards like the GTX580 and 650 in creative suite (for example a 1 hour render finishes with less than 20 seconds difference between a 680, 580 and 650, and the 580 is the quickest of the three). And also how titan isn't particularly great at nearly any workstation applications like Pro/e, ensight, autocad, etc (a 580/680/titan are within a percent a couple of percent for nearly everything but blender/octane).

For creative suite anyway - the GPU doesn't really matter so long as you've got one. That's great news because it means you don't have to let it influence your decision. If you want a titan because games run ~10% better then that's a good reason to spend the extra ~$350. If your goal is to make creative suite faster than use the money to buy a x79 motherboard instead of a z77 and run 8x2gb instead of 2x8gb. Even if you opt for the 3820 and not the 3930k, the fact that you can use a 4-channel memory will give you a speed up that is 100x bigger than a GPU upgrade.

I realize OP had settled for a 780 already, but maybe having these links handing will help other people facing the decision to choose a particular graphics card for some pro application.