Edward Snowden identified as source of NSA leaks

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The NSA spying was predominantly foreign.

Sure Mate.

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Erich Honecker

[Morbownz]

He should have just hidden on the moon, nobody would've even thought to have looked there for him.

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Too bad, maybe he could have sought refuge in the Netherlands, at least, that would be funny. :/

[GreatOak]

He should fake his own death like Batman in The Dark Knight Returns

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But he knew he would get his life ruined over this.....

What a great guy.

[Skroe]

Over 1 guy? You have no clue what your talking about.

Oh really?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...rope-nsa-prism
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013...-austria-plane
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-23158242
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/52381928/n.../#.UdjFlvn_kUA
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3539179.html

Care to retract your comment or do I have to sit you down and read it to you?

Oh why the hell not.

Amid a growing diplomatic storm, the Bolivian president, Evo Morales, has been allowed to fly out of Vienna, but only after a 12-hour interruption during which his plane was stopped and searched for the whistleblower Edward Snowden.

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Bolivian officials accused France, Portugal, Spain and Italy of withdrawing permission for the plane to pass through their airspace, prompting the unscheduled stop in Vienna.

Bolivia's ambassador to the UN, Sacha Llorenti, said Austria's decision to search the aircraft was an act of aggression and a violation of international law, according to Reuters.

Austria's deputy chancellor, Michael Spindelegger, claimed that Morales "agreed to a voluntary inspection".

Officials in Austria and Bolivia said Snowden was not on the plane.

The Bolivian foreign minister, David Choquehuanca, said: "We don't know who invented this lie. We want to denounce to the international community this injustice with the plane of Evo Morales."

In a midnight press conference, Bolivia's vice-president, Álvaro García Linera, described Morales as being "kidnapped by imperialism" in Europe.

"The ambassador for Spain in Austria has just informed us that there is no authorisation to fly over Spanish territory and that at 9am Wednesday they would be in contact with us again," the Bolivian defence minister, Ruben Saavedra, said.

So yes. Over one guy. I believe you, Tommo, are the person who doesn't know what they're talking about.

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Sure Mate.

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Erich Honecker

Oh its Erich "Former General Secretary of the East German Communist Party" Honecker that said it now? The other day it was Thomas Jefferson. The week before that it was Benjamin Franklin. I'm sure James Madison made a cameo as well. Like is this a joke?

It's a completely crap quote that betrays a mind capable of only binary thinking. Any developed country with institutions worth a shit can do both.

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Sure Mate.

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.”
Erich Honecker

That was Benjamin Franklin...

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin

Also Americans spying on everyone and everything, who would have thought?

Snowden should walk free. He exposed the american goverment for invading everyones privacy. America should really just stand back an apologize, hunting him just makes them look more like the intellectual cesspool of humanity.

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That was Benjamin Franklin...

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Benjamin_Franklin

Also Americans spying on everyone and everything, who would have thought?

Snowden should walk free. He exposed the american goverment for invading everyones privacy. America should really just stand back an apologize, hunting him just makes them look more like the intellectual cesspool of humanity.

They can't go lower, besides, they don't give a f probably.

Just scumbags all around.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Well I dont know, would you? Im pretty sure a British woman is on death row atm, and she was assigned a lawyer who purposely lost her the case. Its not uncommon, and for a target like Snowden ide put my cash on them fixing the whole thing.

Wasnt there mass protests on independance day but nothing was done? I dont think they give a fuck what the public thinks.

No I wouldn't, even for him. As for the British Woman, well that sucks for her and I think that's terrible.

[Crissi]

They can't go lower, besides, they don't give a f probably.

Just scumbags all around.

Nation bashing. Awesome!

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Oh its Erich "Former General Secretary of the East German Communist Party" Honecker that said it now? The other day it was Thomas Jefferson. The week before that it was Benjamin Franklin. I'm sure James Madison made a cameo as well. Like is this a joke?

I tried to express my concern that you believe the NSA was primarily involved in foreign affairs might be close to thinking that the "Former General Secretary of the East German Communist Party" said that quote.

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Nation bashing. Awesome!

Yes, because I bashed the entire US. Great reading comprehension there.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Yes, because I bashed the entire US. Great reading comprehension there.

They can't go lower, besides, they don't give a f probably.

Just scumbags all around.

You actually did.

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You actually did.

Excuse me? The person I quoted was talking about the people and organization hunting him down.

Now quit making up things please.

[Crissi]

Excuse me? The person I quoted was talking about the people and organization hunting him down.

Now quit making up things please.

Referring to the people and organization as "America" is piss poor wording. Saying what you said in response to that piss poor wording comes off as nation bashing.

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Referring to the people and organization as "America" is piss poor wording. Saying what you said in response to that piss poor wording comes off as nation bashing.

Then it's a misunderstanding, please tell me why I would bash
an entire country of which only a handful are the scumbags who search for him.

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Now I am done with this made up bullcrap, I won't be demonized for this. :s

[Crissi]

Then it's a misunderstanding, please tell me why I would bash
an entire country of which only a handful are the scumbags who search him.

Misunderstandings: The bane of conversations everywhere and the creator of many enemies. Its just what it looked like. Go ahead and bash the gov't, the rest of us Mericans sure do

[Orbitus]

I wish Obama would just pardon this guy and admit he fucked up with the whole "spying on everyone, everywhere" thing.

So wait, when the programs were made, you didn't care, but now when its under Obama you suddenly give a shit about it? Sorry to say but Snowden deserves anything and everything he gets out of this. He has 4 laptops in his possession, all with government secrets on them, he has given information to China on what computers we could be watching for them hacking the US government/corporations. How long before he starts opening these laptops to the Russian government?

[Kraenen]

So wait, when the programs were made, you didn't care, but now when its under Obama you suddenly give a shit about it? Sorry to say but Snowden deserves anything and everything he gets out of this. He has 4 laptops in his possession, all with government secrets on them, he has given information to China on what computers we could be watching for them hacking the US government/corporations. How long before he starts opening these laptops to the Russian government?

Depends if the US gov. starts liking freedom again. This is how it was in the cold war. Soviets and US would barter for German scientists, try and set them up with nice lives so they would work for the government.

[Skroe]

I was referring to the notion of asylum, since that was the topical point you were making.

Im not talking about the spying scandal. Purely the notion that granting asylum to Snowden wont break alliances, and if it does then Obama is even more petty and pathetic than he already seems to be.

Oh, it will. I was directly refering to granting asylum.

Let me spell it out to you. Austria, France, Italy, Spain and Portugal were willing to stage an international incident, by preventing Bolivian President Evo Morales from flying through their airspace because US Intelligence had reason to believe he was on his Presidential Aircaft. The plane was forced to land in Austria, where the Austrian government searched the plane of the President of Bolivia for Edward Snowden.

Now can you imagine this being done to Air Force One? Of course not. European governments are so on the US's side over Snowden they didn't care about an action against Bolivia so unfriendly, it even gives me pause, just on the suspicion that Snowden was there. They don't want him going through their air space.

If that doesn't make crystal clear to you how serious the US is taking this, then nothing will. The US told Europe to force the head of state of another country to land and have the property of another state searched, and Europe didn't so much as pause.

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So wait, when the programs were made, you didn't care, but now when its under Obama you suddenly give a shit about it? Sorry to say but Snowden deserves anything and everything he gets out of this. He has 4 laptops in his possession, all with government secrets on them, he has given information to China on what computers we could be watching for them hacking the US government/corporations. How long before he starts opening these laptops to the Russian government?

He'll give up the only leverage he has for living in Venezuela, and, you know, not having an unfortunate automobile accident.