KTT does a lot of damage with the multistrike and grants 13,274 int for 10 seconds on a 0.92 RPPM. (i have not done math for either trinkets )
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Honestly Wushoolay HC TF 2/2 is amazing, especially for affliction. It stacks 17,150 intellect total, with 1,21 RPPM. That means the expected time between procs is 50s. The only downside is the static hit, we might have too much of it.
Black Blood doesn't seem worth it at all. It's almost the same as Wushoolay, only with haste instead of hit. However, it has 0,92 RPPM, about 31,5% less than Wushoolay. I think that will make it worse, considering how much we benefit from procs. Additionally it drops off Garrosh, so you can't get a heroic version for any kind of progress.
KTT looks like the best new trinket to me. The passive is solid and about equal to the others, Bindings being a bit better and BBoY a bit worse (cleave trinket is situational obviously). 0,92 RPPM means you will get about 76% more procs than with 115s ICD, which more than makes up for the shorter proc if you consider snapshotting.
Bindings has the best passive, but I think low proc rate will not favor us (talking affliction mostly). A 20s proc is just not that much better than a 10s proc.
As it is now, I will stick with Wushoolay for all progress. Second slot would be KTT > Bindings > Breath.
yeah, i get your point, too many red sockets is generally bad when you want to primarily stack secondary stats since they come from yellow sockets. problem is, you'd loose dps no matter how you gem tho, int/mastery gems isnt going to be as good as pure mastery gems if mastery is your best stat and the same goes for haste as i said earlier, it comes down to stat values which we cant really say anything about until some proper theorycrafting have been done, so until then it will mainly be based on opinions and not facts.
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Hmmm they doubled the value of secondary stat gems because everyone just took primary stat gems. Blizzard doesn't like group think.
Now that everyone at a certain level stacks secondary stat gems, I wonder if they will herd everyone back to primary stats again. (Yellow gems are too popular! Everyone was taking them!)
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Will be interesting nonetheless.
Bindings is easily BIS. Its a ICD trinket ( thus reliable ), and the passive is strong as hell. The questions come down to what trinket will we use in the 2nd trinket slot, and atm im not convinced it WONT be breath or wushoolays simply because they proc so much more than the other trinkets sadly. Ive been tweeting at lore and ghostcrawler nearly every day about getting rid of RPPM altogether, and the only response ive gotten is that they added ICD and On-Use trinkets to the loot tables, so we have options. (Which bindings is our only ICD/On-Use trinket as a caster in the entirety of SoO so thats laughable at best ).
Youre also forgetting the bindings proc lasts 20 seconds versus 10 seconds.
Heres some quick napkin math on the procs values:
13273 int for 20 seconds ( 115 second ICD )
13273 x 20 = 265,460
265,460/115 = 2308.35 average int gain from the proc.
13273 int for 10 seconds ( RPPM, Procs may very, but for the benefit of consistency lets use Strmstrikes proc rate of 1min 5 seconds (read: 65 second icd FOR SIMPLICITIES SAKE, your procs could very well take more or even less time to proc ).
13273 x 10 = 132,730
132,730 / 65 = 2042 average int gain from the proc.
Moral of the story is, theyre pretty damn close proc wise, except bindings is going to be RELIABLE, and CONSISTENT, between attempts, which during progression ( at least at the top level ), is FAR FAR FAR more appealing to me than the POSSIBILITY of it being worse, or slightly better.
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It's not amazing, it's very close to all the other passives. I would much much rather have 10s procs every 65s over 20s procs every 115s, it's simply superior because you can have big dots for nearly double the time. Reliably bad is not a benefit.
Wushoolay is the obvious trinket IMO, and then KTT > Bindings > Breath for second slot.
After that then yes Id agree with the possibility of KTT and Bindings being nearly equal, however i still favor the consistency over the randomness.
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