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  1. #61
    Quote Originally Posted by parish View Post
    I need to come out with my frustation.
    i am so tired of hunters in Pvp as a feral druid, i have So much trouble with them
    stop being a bitch and kill the pet, you win.. skiller

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    Quote Originally Posted by jfk View Post
    Have you met an enhance sham yet?
    Silence + disarm Ascendance and they're done.

  3. #63
    Quote Originally Posted by Tommo View Post
    Here everybody, do you see it? Do you see the reason why hunters spells are being gimped and turned into boring shitty buttons? This guy RIGHT HERE.

    Ferals are supposed to rape hunters, I dont know what game your playing but it evidently isnt the same one Im on.
    where does it say any class is suppose to be able to rape any other class? please show me where you et your info from
    truth is blizz tries to make every class equal, we all seem to know this but you seem to have info other-wise
    i hope to hear from you soon on this, enlighten us all

  4. #64
    Quote Originally Posted by parish View Post
    Tell me what im going wrong? i cant get to them, there damage and kiting, even tho my low gapclosing abilitys, i cant kill them
    Stun them on disengage save your barkskin and defensive cool downs for bestial wrath. Cyclone the pets as well. Use mass entanglement for stampede not sure if it still does work haven't played since the hunter nerfs/buffs came.
    You're right except for 2 things.

    1. My name is spelt "God" not "Loucious-sama".
    2. I'm not a man, because man is inherently flawed. I am in fact a being so far beyond your comprehension that archaic constraints like flesh, blood, time and consequently, gender, have no meaning to me.

  5. #65
    LoS>kill pet>restealth=profit?
    do what you feel.

  6. #66
    Quote Originally Posted by Spacepunch View Post
    LoS>kill pet>restealth=profit?
    Ok and what if the hunter is not afk ?

  7. #67
    Quote Originally Posted by Spacepunch View Post
    LoS>kill pet>restealth=profit?
    Well... Maybe if the hunter is level 10 i could do that. But im sorry? The hunters i face aint so bad.

  8. #68
    If sodapoppin can kill hunters in 1 bleed duration then I'm guessing your doing it wrong?

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    hunters are really just king of BGs, every single random BG the top 3 damage done and killing blow is nearly always hunters (if there is 3)

    i dont think its so bad in arena where you have competent team mates who can peal and heal, but in random BGs hunters just dominate, they don't really have a weakness in pvp, they lose nothing from moving, lose nothing from being at range, nothing from upclose. ive really not noticed it too much in arena becuase my team mate can help to cc and heal me, if we have all cds up, and the hunters partner sucks, but they are really way to strong at the moment.
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  10. #70
    Quote Originally Posted by Lulbalance View Post
    2400..lol.

    if you want to throw around blind ratings to add emphasis to arguments, which tbh i fkn hate and never do unless it adds context to game scenerios; my highest rating is 2700 + change on mage. when mages were ridiculous at the start of mop i wouldn't claim anything hard countered me because it didnt - including ferals which should, since i was playing frost.

    arena ratings don't matter anyways - this is more a 1v1 argument. i should note that in 3s hunters are much less scary and more predictable, i'm sure we can agree there. but they're still top dog considering the whole package.

    hunters are the class now..

    i said he should win..an he should, but there is no way that you aren't getting decent damage off against anything right now. it's not a hard counter if you're at all scary to the other class given equal skill and gear.

    If you don't feel like there's any window for decent dmg against a feral as a hunter, you might be doing things wrong.
    Wait wait wait wait....

    You're complaining about 1v1 balance? The thing Blizzard has said time and time again that they will never ever make any attempts to balance? And you even admit in 3v3 (the format of PvP balance is focused on) that Hunters aren't that bad?

    Thank you for proving my points. 3v3 is exactly the place I was referring to when I said Ferals hard counter Hunters (which they do, assuming both are good players).

    No one should be bitching about who wins 1v1s. 1v1s in WoW will never ever be balanced and never ever have been. No one should have any expectations that they ever would be. If that's what this thread is based on then this whole things is WAY more retarded than I thought.

  11. #71
    Quote Originally Posted by mistahwilshire View Post
    Wait wait wait wait....

    You're complaining about 1v1 balance? The thing Blizzard has said time and time again that they will never ever make any attempts to balance? And you even admit in 3v3 (the format of PvP balance is focused on) that Hunters aren't that bad?

    Thank you for proving my points. 3v3 is exactly the place I was referring to when I said Ferals hard counter Hunters (which they do, assuming both are good players).

    No one should be bitching about who wins 1v1s. 1v1s in WoW will never ever be balanced and never ever have been. No one should have any expectations that they ever would be. If that's what this thread is based on then this whole things is WAY more retarded than I thought.
    I'm fairly sure the 1v1 argument-comment was to the fact that OP talks about 1v1.
    Hunter vs feral druid.

    At least 3 people answered with actual advices i could use. Or was it four?
    Thanks to them anyway ^^

    Off this thread, since it's clearly not getting better
    Everyone has so much to say
    They talk talk talk their lives away

  12. #72
    Quote Originally Posted by Flaks View Post
    This was already discussed.

    Hunters were NEVER weak, let alone the weakest, during any time in Cataclysm. The class was contending for rank 1 and gladiator range for the entirety of the expansion. The low representation was simply due to a completely new resource system no one was used to.
    Just like Monks were contending for glad during season 12 but the low representation was simply due to a completely new resource system no one was used too.

    Are you being intentionally stupid is this actually your reasoning?

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    Focus didn't take long to get used to, maybe 2 weeks max for serious PvPers.

  14. #74
    Quote Originally Posted by mistahwilshire View Post
    Wait wait wait wait....

    You're complaining about 1v1 balance? The thing Blizzard has said time and time again that they will never ever make any attempts to balance? And you even admit in 3v3 (the format of PvP balance is focused on) that Hunters aren't that bad?

    Thank you for proving my points. 3v3 is exactly the place I was referring to when I said Ferals hard counter Hunters (which they do, assuming both are good players).

    No one should be bitching about who wins 1v1s. 1v1s in WoW will never ever be balanced and never ever have been. No one should have any expectations that they ever would be. If that's what this thread is based on then this whole things is WAY more retarded than I thought.
    i didnt complain about anything, man. i was posting some tips for the guy. i dont care about 1v1 at all.

    whole different thing if you were talking about 3v3 with hunter teams vs feral teams...a little comp dependent but i agree with you.. ferals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terridon View Post
    I'm fairly sure the 1v1 argument-comment was to the fact that OP talks about 1v1.
    Hunter vs feral druid.

    At least 3 people answered with actual advices i could use. Or was it four?
    Thanks to them anyway ^^

    Off this thread, since it's clearly not getting better
    yes i was.. and you're welcome if i was 1 of those.

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    The devs aren't stupid.

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    Hunter's Mark now has a duration of 20 seconds while in PvP combat (down from 30 seconds).

    Readiness now finishes the cooldowns on Rapid Fire, Feign Death, Deterrence, Disengage, and Camouflage when activated (was all Hunter abilities with a base cooldown of less than 5 minutes).

    Narrow Escape's root effect is now a nature spell (was a physical spell).

    http://www.wowhead.com/news=215350/5...ated-june-20th

    Something good, finally. Hopefully they do this and revert the Silencing Shot change.

  16. #76
    Quote Originally Posted by parish View Post
    Thanks alot for the feedback, i didnt meant to make a little war, but i just saw, i was a bad feral. LOL
    I would ignore the majority of comments and focus on the few that gave great advice for Feral vs Hunter. Some good stuff here...strewn amongst the rubble (or is it rabble?).
    "Brevity is...wit"

  17. #77
    Quote Originally Posted by Zergal View Post
    ITT BM is the only Hunter spec.

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    If you get hit by Scare Beast when all you need to do is shift to prevent a 2.5 seconds cast, you're fucking horrible.
    then most ferals are fucking horrible since scare beast works everytime i play on my hunter alt

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    Well hunters had the best kiting toolkit because of the old dead zone. Their damage was so high as they were balanced around this, and having to maintain min range.

    As a melee you stood a chance if you got inside the dead zone as they would have to go defensive and use their gap openers before being able to continue decent damage.

    Now that zone is gone, the damage and kiting toolkit remains plus your pet doesn't need Los on its hardest hitting ability.

    They are plainly the best anti-melee class and now their is no dead zone it's clear that the kiting abilitys should be nerfed since they have no impact on your ability to do damage, all they provide is you the advantage of being able to tunnel that damage while taking none yourself, from melee.
    Last edited by villie; 2013-06-23 at 12:19 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by villie View Post
    Well hunters had the best kiting toolkit because of the old dead zone. Their damage was so high as they were balanced around this, and having to maintain min range.

    As a melee you stood a chance if you got inside the dead zone as they would have to go defensive and use their gap openers before being able to continue decent damage.

    Now that zone is gone, the damage and kiting toolkit remains plus your pet doesn't need Los on its hardest hitting ability.

    They are plainly the best anti-melee class and now their is no dead zone it's clear that the kiting abilitys should be nerfed since they have no impact on your ability to do damage, all they provide is you the advantage of being able to tunnel that damage while taking none yourself, from melee.
    They are the strongest class bar none in pvp, their niche with insta cc and constant pressure plus the fact that hunter ( not pet) dmg has been incrementally buffed for months and months means they just need a bit of a rework. Blizz is having a hard time they are standardizing every class into either spel dd or melee dd but hunter just walk the line.

    The zone getting reintroduced is not gonna fix anything though since it would make hunters too easy to counter. All they need to do is tweak their insta cc and readiness, which i think they are doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by parish View Post
    I need to come out with my frustation.
    i am so tired of hunters in Pvp as a feral druid, i have So much trouble with them
    Don't know how you're having trouble as feral against hunters. Also, don't they all backpedal? Especially dwarf and troll males. I mean sure, once in a blue moon you'll find a good hunter who can strafe and has key binds but that's no reason to whine on forums. Those are really really really rare, always have been. And ferals are pretty insane right now too.
    Last edited by Srg56; 2013-06-23 at 03:04 PM.

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