Also we wont be able to hardcast cyclone cause we will get trained hard so how will we be able to put ut any cc?
a massive kick in the nuts to Ferals, serioulsy 20s CD was already stupid, now who will take a Feral into arena over a rog or even any other melee?
so basicly they want Ferals to hardcast cyclone now? good luck with that especially if a rog/dk sitting on you, you might be able to get 1 cyclone off every use of Bash, Not QQing or anything i dont play Feral anymore, my main is Monk now and i only play druid if my guild needs a tank or Resto druid for RBGs.
but i wanted to go back to my feral in 5.4, i guess that wont happen now.
Note that nature Swiftness is also gone, its only for resto druids now.
EDIT: just to add something, ferals didnt need this nerf much 20s CD was plenty of a nerf, one class that needs a CC balance right now is definetly a dicp priest. And they need to look at monk cc more closely, monk literally have no cc iutside ring/leg sweep
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Im playing feral as main.
The nerf is not gonna go through. dont worry.
It will destroy the class completly!
7 years as feral. I've never seen anything crazy as this gone through to the live servers!
So please chillout! PTR is for testing possibilities of changes which will be adjusted once in a while.
I can imagine cyclone being adjusted further so that it will be a short casting time in catform while running - Lets say 1 sec cast with PS.
It can still be grounded and windsheared/pummeled if the oponent is born with just a little bit of brain.
Not the cyclone nerf itself. Cyclone may be or may be not too OP - depends on your point of view.
What is annoying is that I don't see any buffs to compensate this nerf.
Cats have really poor survivability in pvp. Stay in cat form and you will die in few seconds. Shift into bear and you'll lose 90% of your dps.
Instant cyclone allowed ferals to dps and stay alive in the same time. Just for few seconds every 30 seconds, but if used smart in conjunction with other techniques it was pretty much enough to keep us alive.
You can't dps because they'll thrash you in seconds, you can't cast cyclone because you'll get stunned out of form and eaten alive, all you can do is stay in bear form just to make your death a little bit slower and more painful.
I can't even imagine feral pvp without cyclone on high ratings. They'll have to double cat survivability to make it at least somewhat viable. And I don't like it either because instead of being smart and using proper skills in proper times you'll have to rely on some passive buff.
Without cyclone it's like losing half of the gameplay.
Well, it's not that bad. Maybe they'll buff dps instead and cat dps will become at least somewhat competitive in pve.
The amount of control/annoyance/cc that instant cyclones brough was absolutely rediculous. I am honestly glad they got rid of it and will be focussing on crowd control which can actually be warded against/prevented.
Now do this for other classes with instant cc (lolpriest) and pvp might actually become fun again.
This change is great tbh... finally i could peel again.
Hey that's fine, get rid of our instant CC ability.
Cause... it's instant cast. And that's not fair.
Oh wait, while they're at it, get rid of Hammer of Justice being instant cast. Leg sweep being instant cast. That frost stun thing mages have that's instant cast, shadowfury (I think it's called) that warlocks have that's instant cast.
Truthfully, I'm fine with them making changes to the game. But don't come in here and say it needs to be nerfed becasue it's instant cast where there are MANY CC/stun abilities other classes have that are instant case.
Least they could do is make it castable in Cat Form, perhaps while moving. Not to mention the range should probably receive a slight increase, as 20 yards is pretty shitty if you're in melee range on one target, trying to hardcast CC another one.
Oh well, at least it doesn't have a CD anymore. Funny how the complaining part of the community always gets what it wants though.
Oh btw, saying that this will destroy Feral is absolutely ridiculous. It'll make it a bit harder to get Cyclones off yes, but when done right you might actually be able to use Cyclone more often than you did before, at the loss of some damage naturally though.
its not JUST about the instant cast. its the combination of everything that makes it so OP. also you still have mighty bash/treant stun which are both instant and on a <1min cd.
Last edited by ongu01; 2013-06-23 at 10:20 PM.
Also, not sure if you meant you can have BOTH mighty bash and treants, but you can't. Not to mention Treants will no longer stun but instead use root, which means Feral won't have any reason whatsoever to ever take it in PvP.
And here I was enjoying the game again as I geared up my Feral in anticipation to PvP on him as my main DPS PvP toon.
In other words; with this kind of attitude you're probably not playing the right spec/class anyway.
I can imagine people will bitch about trent stun into a clone, into another clone, into another clone into another trent stun, into a knock back or a disorient. CALLING IT FIRST.