Has anyone noticed the Irony of the general postings on MMO

[BugNuggets]

Fully support liberal politics like big social safety nets and government providing all your basic needs if you don't want to earn them yourself but believe that epic gear in WoW should be only for those who work hard for it and have the ability to obtain them and casuals shouldn't get anything until they learn to play better.

[s_bushido]

Real life ≠ video game.

[Kisho]

Because RL = a game. Totally.

Also, funnily enough, we have a lot of people who maybe, just maybe, have different opinions. Crazy idea, I know.

[anveena]

I'm not really seeing it because loads of people don't want epic gear like it was back during Vanilla or TBC.

[BugNuggets]

Of course real life isn't a video game. In real life if you receive something from the government it first had to be taken away from someone else. In a video game if the developers give someone something there is absolutely no real cost to anyone else in the game.

And I'm not arguing for or against social programs, I just find it interesting that something that costs them very little* they are in full support of it, but when they feel it does cost them something**that has no real value they are opposed it.


*assuming a significant percentage most gamers are fairly young and pay little in taxes
**virtual prestige of having "hard" to obtain epic gear

[Pull My Finger]

Political views of gamers is definitely way up on my list of things nobody should care about or take seriously in any way.

[Hyve]

Because my views and opinions about a form of entertainment should totally be applied to real life, potentially killing millions just because I want to prove a point in a damn game.

Seriously - Some people need to disconnect from the internet for a while, and actually leave their homes.

[Deleted]

The sole fact that you can't die from hunger and/or lack of water in WoW kinda eliminates any form of political view anyone might have had.

[lawow74]

I think it's more ironic that they seem to waste more time and energy getting up in arms over server pixels than they do real-world problems, myself.

[Butler to Baby Sloths]

Fully support liberal politics like big social safety nets and government providing all your basic needs if you don't want to earn them yourself but believe that epic gear in WoW should be only for those who work hard for it and have the ability to obtain them and casuals shouldn't get anything until they learn to play better.

You don't starve to death if you don't get a certain piece of gear by next Tuesday.

[openair]

I noticed a lot of people like to think there's like 5 people posting on the entirety of the internet instead of billions. Or that a forum can have a single collective political view (or a single collective opinion on any matter, game or real life). Or think they can discern that "collective opinion" from reading any number of anecdotal posts. Different people have different opinions.

[Deleted]

Has anyone else noticed that people who lean to the right want easy epics in WoW?

If social welfare is a problem to people then they should go play EVE online.

[Mexa]

To all the ppl saying that real life =/= game, the OP is actually on to something. It's the reason MMOs dont work in the western world. North America has only had 2 successful MMOs ever, namely Everquest and WoW, while China has about 20 active MMOs at any given time. Its because of the "want it now" mentality, that is so common in the western world.

[Deleted]

To all the ppl saying that real life =/= game, the OP is actually on to something. It's the reason MMOs dont work in the western world. North America has only had 2 successful MMOs ever, namely Everquest and WoW, while China has about 20 active MMOs at any given time. Its because of the "want it now" mentality, that is so common in the western world.

Or people don't really like doing the same thing over and over again, because most of them already do that while working.

[Reeve]

Fully support liberal politics like big social safety nets and government providing all your basic needs if you don't want to earn them yourself but believe that epic gear in WoW should be only for those who work hard for it and have the ability to obtain them and casuals shouldn't get anything until they learn to play better.

What happens in WoW if you don't get epics?

Now what happens in real life if you don't get food and shelter?

[Uvwaex]

I think the thing the OP wanted to point out is that the political views of the forum seem to lean towards "social welfare gamers". Preferring that the government supplies suitable basic living standards so they can have the time to grind to see top-end content in MMOs, instead of having to do effort for anything IRL.

But thats not ironic at all.

[twh]

While real life may not equal the game.....i totally see the irony. Statists/Neo-liberals worship government (even the horrors it commits is just as bad as when Bush was in office - this is ignored b/c the Pres is a democrat), they believe it should provide and care for all our needs.

Yet a lot of these players whine and QQ about WoW being easy and not having to WORK to get gear/progress/become successful in game. Even though in real life they feel our government's subjects (us) should be taken care of without putting effort/work to become successful.

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What happens in WoW if you don't get epics?

Now what happens in real life if you don't get food and shelter?

No epics, nothing happens.
No shelter or food. Possibly death.

Statists/Neo-liberals don't seem to understand and want to treat the CAUSE of these issues. Only their symptoms. Why is there so much poverty and unemployment? Why is the value of the US dollar declining? These are the diseases they are not willing to treat - only the symptoms/effects of them.

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Of course real life isn't a video game. In real life if you receive something from the government it first had to be taken away from someone else. In a video game if the developers give someone something there is absolutely no real cost to anyone else in the game.

Exactly. Government is a giant, thieving, corporation. When Bush was in office the statists/neo-libs felt this way. When Obama took office and continued all of Bush's policies and WARS....they don't complain or seem to have an issue with it.

Statism, the most dangerous religion in the world.

[Deleted]

I am pretty damn sure that the OP hasn't read every single thread/looked at every single user and made an analyse of how many showed tendesies of liberal support. No the irony is that the OP have made a gross overstatement of the users political leaning and think that this political leaning is something they would implement into a game. Because being a liberal means that you hate and despise every single aspect of socialism, be it politics in real life as well as a virtual game, right guys?

[Puck]

Because RL = a game. Totally.

Also, funnily enough, we have a lot of people who maybe, just maybe, have different opinions. Crazy idea, I know.

Different opinions? Well they're wrong.

Everyone is wrong except for me.

[Biske]

Fully support liberal politics like big social safety nets and government providing all your basic needs if you don't want to earn them yourself but believe that epic gear in WoW should be only for those who work hard for it and have the ability to obtain them and casuals shouldn't get anything until they learn to play better.

Most people on welfare actually need it, they're not doing it because they're lazy. They have jobs and they don't make enough to feed themselves and their families. A lot of people who criticize social programs are also not aware that they are being helped by social programs (social security, medicare, parental leave, public transportation, public schools, public libraries, etc.). Hell, one of my friends can only make ends meet with two jobs (one minimum wage, the other slightly above minimum wage) while trying to finish college, and she's one of the most frugal people I know and doesn't even have a family to take care of (lives on her own). If she had a family, she wouldn't have the time for two jobs and school and would certainly need aid. And she's not even well off because she's in debt from stupidly expensive student loans.

Oh and she's liberal and used to WoW before college and never felt entitled to anything. Soooooo generalize much?