well I believe the argument is "I payed for it"
well I believe the argument is "I payed for it"
I can actually agree with this. There was no need for LFR or Flex during WolTK for example because Naxx, Normal ToGC and ICC were pretty easy, and also had 10man versions that were both even easier in both organisation and difficulty. So there was a little bit for everyone else. Meanwhile i feel the current normal mode raids just don't fit for anybody anymore. Heroic raiding guilds are still stomping them the week they are released, with the less successful ones maybe killing the last boss on the second or 3rd lockout at most while they seem too hard for the average casual guild and pugs.
That's part of the problem and something a lot of people are failing to see. You broke your ladder and lfr has nothing to do with it. Those lesser guilds where people would start to raid faded away this expansion because normal was tuned beyond them. Where do you think most people started raiding? They started in those social guilds that were doing normals and making their way threw the content in a much slower way. Those guilds got destroyed this expansion. It's hard for a newer player to break into raiding when the bar is set so high, as it is now, we needed those social guilds and were paying a price for seeing them get destroyed.
You seem to miss the point. Players should not be able to limit each other's ability to play the game FOR ANY REASON. Even if you are the most unappealing, newbish, unenchanted, undergeared fail, no other player should be able to say "sorry mate, you aren't going to play this game you paid for".
The night is dark and full of terrors...
I propose solo raids. That way everyone wins and they can get their challenge.
I hate to say this, but at the end of the day. Its just a game. Some people shouldn't get so uptight about who plays what difficulty, they are enjoying their game and so should you.
Because the same group of players now (or at least many of the same members and their spiritual brothers and sisters) were complaining about how easy things were then and about welfare epics and lamenting for tbc. I don't think normal modes fit anybody but I think lfr fits ALOT of people and so will flex. I see normals going the way of the dinosaur however. Flex will just become the new normal.
Actually, they are, because this isn't Red Faction, you are playing WITH other people. This is like me saying "Well, hey, I subbed for 2 years in TBC and paid £160 in subs, why should these noobs in MoP get to play TBC content without paying £160 as well?" I dare you to tell me that's a logical statement, because it isn't. People are getting HUGE amounts of free content joining this late, and people continue to play that free content trivialised or not.
Playing the wrong game bud. No one is limiting you, you can literally enter the raid, you just won't down anything without others besides you. It's your own fault that you can't put in the minimal effort that is required to actually do the content.
Again, you can play the game you paid for, BUT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO PLAY IT.
Probably because I give up on doing that when it's met with such idiocy. I'd keep trying if it didn't keep happening.
It seems literally out of LFRers comprehension. I don't mean that in an insulting way, but there is an aspect of the game they literally do not get.
WHen you need multiple levels of difficulty in an MMORPG, youre playing the wrong game.
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It's funny you brought that game up actually. I was thinking about it today and prior to ninja gaiden I can't think of a single game I played where I ever felt the distinction that it was hardcore vs casual. Going back to the glory days of pc gaming in the 90's (epic mega games, origin, westwood) I never once felt that their was that distinction. Even most xbox games I didn't feel that distinction. I wonder when that split became so much more pronounced in gaming...
I feel i am skilled enough to raid in wow, the problem is i have no time. LFR is a good solution for that