double standard racism

[ciggy]

Something has been driving me batshit crazy over the past few weeks, i've touched on it in a couple of other threads but I do want to explore it a bit deeper.


Why is it okay for a white guy to get called all sorts of slurs and no one bats an eye, but if i drop a slur towards a black person, or mexican or pretty much any other minority I get tarred and feathered?

I know black folks have endured a lot of horrible shit over the years, and I get that, but does it make it okay for them to call me basically anything they want too?

[Deleted]

No, it doesn't make it okay. Should've seen how people flipped when I said I didn't want to be with someone who got black skin as a white woman, apparently it's racist to not be attracted to black skin.

[Hunterpower]

I don't get it either, especially the notion that i should be blamed for my ancestors and allow black people to treat me like shit.
:/

[chrisberb]

Something has been driving me batshit crazy over the past few weeks, i've touched on it in a couple of other threads but I do want to explore it a bit deeper.


Why is it okay for a white guy to get called all sorts of slurs and no one bats an eye, but if i drop a slur towards a black person, or mexican or pretty much any other minority I get tarred and feathered?

I know black folks have endured a lot of horrible shit over the years, and I get that, but does it make it okay for them to call me basically anything they want too?

I dunno why it bothers you i mean..

EXACTLY! If i'm hanging out with my friend (who's white) I call him a nigga alot. That means nothing. If i was to see a black guy, and dropped the n bomb on him, that would mean something.

If you get your panties twisted about certain words, perhaps YOU are the one seeing intent when it isn't there.

I also constantly call a guy i play with a haji, (slur towards some folks in iraq) he served in the marines and was in iraq.. he just laughs and calls me a glacier nigger.

Joking among friends is one thing. If you have no ill intent behind the words, they mean nothing.

folks that get offended by words deserve nothing but scorn. Lord help anyone that reads trade chat on most large servers..

[Deleted]

I don't really care what racist things people want to call me, I'm fine with it. What I don't understand is why minorities always seem to want to take some advantage out of racism. They are so fast offended one might think they gain something from being offended.

[Deleted]

I absolutely concur with what chrisberb tried to say.
People who get instantly on their nerves when they hear a certain word or another make me laugh.

It's the context and the meaning of the word (any word) that can make it really racist and offensive. Nobody should get offended at any particular word anytime they hear it, but only according to how it get used.
There are many worse ways to offend another being avoiding certain words and hiding behind euphemisms.
I find this all particularly hypocritical.

[FuxieDK]

Regardless of skin color, deep down in the pit of the stomach, lives a racist, in every human being.
Feed it enough, and it will spew profanities, or do worse..

It's human nature to fear what's different, and skin color is a HUGE difference..

[Vidpci]

Jamie Fox can wear a Trayvon Martin shirt to the BET awards, but what would happen to a white actor that put on a Zimmerman shirt? The career would be over immediately.

[Rapti]

Cuz whites dont care so much about it.

[chrisberb]

Jamie Fox can wear a Trayvon Martin shirt to the BET awards, but what would happen to a white actor that put on a Zimmerman shirt? The career would be over immediately.

Yeah, O'Reilly seemed to have some real beef with that. But you have to also keep in mind that one is in support of a dead 17 year old, the other is in support of an accused murderer.

[ciggy]

I dunno why it bothers you i mean..

I don't know if you thought that was going to somehow change the fact it bugs me, or if you were thinking you revealed some sort of huge secret.. I am who i am, and if you search here much you will see that. Getting called a cracker, a redneck or whatever doesn't bother me one bit. But i promise you if i call someone something remotely racist they lose their shit. I don't understand why I'm suppose to tiptoe on eggshells when in "mixed" company, but then i have to ignore someone insulting me like it means nothing. Just seems like a massive double standard.

take paula dean, she said some racist stuff.. and she's damn near ridden out of town on a goddamn rail, but others can insult and demean and no one seems to get offended in the least. Lord help you insult a muslim, it's the end of the world.. But they can insult jewish folks all they want, and the jewish folks are suppose to gobble up that shit and act like it tastes good. Just nuts to me.


I served in the army and navy both with some wonderful folks of all minorities, and generally dug the shit out of most of them.

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No, it doesn't make it okay. Should've seen how people flipped when I said I didn't want to be with someone who got black skin as a white woman, apparently it's racist to not be attracted to black skin.

I've never been attracted to asians, or black folks.. I see no problem with that.

[alduron]

No, it doesn't make it okay. Should've seen how people flipped when I said I didn't want to be with someone who got black skin as a white woman, apparently it's racist to not be attracted to black skin.

Yeah i have something of a descending order of attraction: white>asian>indian>black. There are certain exceptions, but for the most part it works.

[Mausama]

Cuz whites dont care so much about it.

This I think it pretty much sums it up. If calling a white person a crack or redneck really pissed them off, I think a decent person would not call them that word.. However, if you know calling someone something will offend them.. that pretty much makes you an asshole; which makes up 90% of the internet.. so yeah.

[ciggy]

This I think it pretty much sums it up. If calling a white person a crack or redneck really pissed them off, I think a decent person would not call them that word.. However, if you know calling someone something will offend them.. that pretty much makes you an asshole; which makes up 90% of the internet.. so yeah.

That's the answer i needed to hear. thanks

[alduron]

This I think it pretty much sums it up. If calling a white person a crack or redneck really pissed them off, I think a decent person would not call them that word.. However, if you know calling someone something will offend them.. that pretty much makes you an asshole; which makes up 90% of the internet.. so yeah.

Oh we care, but what are we going to do about it? if we complain we get the past thrown in our face; something which we had nothing to do with.

[Echelonl]

This is simple. Only white people can be racist. This is common knowledge!

[Deleted]

It's not okay, In what thread did someone who wasn't white said it was okay to call a white person all sorts of crap?

No, it doesn't make it okay. Should've seen how people flipped when I said I didn't want to be with someone who got black skin as a white woman, apparently it's racist to not be attracted to black skin.

Your choice of words can be poor sometimes and that's why people sometimes think of you as someone with racial issues. In the thread people seem to make it pretty clear that there's nothing wrong with not being attracted to a certain ethnicity.
Some words can offend others even if you don't mean to. It may be stupid to you but it is what it is.

[TheGravemind]

No, it doesn't make it okay. Should've seen how people flipped when I said I didn't want to be with someone who got black skin as a white woman, apparently it's racist to not be attracted to black skin.

That part implies that it's not appropriate or acceptable (to you) for a white woman to be attracted or "with" someone who possesses black skin. That part should make the reaction you describe from whomever was hearing you say this not surprising at all. It's not racist if you personally are not attracted to black skin, obviously, but the way you phrased it was in a really poor manner for whatever you were trying to say.

@the OP, being harassed for being ANY race (or being harassed period, actually) is not alright and I believe you would not find many people at all who would disagree with me on this.

[OzoAndIndi]

It shouldn't be and is not ok toward anyone, esp considering the fact that it doesn't help everyone move forward. However, gotta understand it's a history thing and that can't be changed and "gotten over" in the blink of an eye simply because we might feel it should.

I'm white.. in a country that's still majority white, and I don't come from a background that was horribly affected by racial prejudiced. If someone actually called me a supposed white slur, it wouldn't really bother me much because that history isn't there and I feel such insults are just too general to take personally.

On the flip side, as a woman there is a history with that and knowledge that there are still places in the world where women exist under oppression, even taught to believe it's a good thing. And that (no offense to the good men out there) there are man who still seem to think, even in my own country, that they should make all the rules including women's rules. Because of history, which wasn't all that long ago and some lingering remnants of certain attitudes, I do take anti-women things personally. And similarly with being white though, look at the guys in those other threads that said it doesn't really bother them if something sexist is said toward them...there isn't really that history there for them to touch any raw feelings over it.

Really, if it's just words, ignoring it is the best policy.

No, it doesn't make it okay. Should've seen how people flipped when I said I didn't want to be with someone who got black skin as a white woman, apparently it's racist to not be attracted to black skin.

Could be how it was said maybe.. Really I think all races kind have an unspoken agreement - or should - that it's perfectly ok for anyone to be attracted mostly to those of the same...flavor, so to speak.

[Deleted]

Who says it's okay? But as a white guy I'd hazard to guess the few racial slurs that I've been called in my life where a far cry from the institutionalized racism some people encounter every day in almost every facet of their life. But yea, I guess if you are going to think answering racial slurs with other racial slurs is a "balancing" act where both slurs cancel each out then you would have troubles.