New computer.. I can't decide.. 3 choices

[Deleted]

Hey everyone,

I am in need of your help - I am going to buy a new computer, but I am unsure which one to buy.

I will be playing the new Battlefield 4 on the new Frostbite 3 engine and the new Elder Scrolls Online.

The games mentioned above must be able to run at at least high graphic.

These 3 computers are the ones I have looked at:

Computer 1

Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B85M-D3H motherboard (Ultra Durable 4 Plus)
CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-4670 4x3.40GHz (Turbo 3.80GHz)
GPU: Nvidia GTX770 OC 2GB GDDR5
RAM: Kingston HyperX 8GB DDR3-1600 RAM
HARDDRIVE: 1 TB Seagate Barracuda (SATA3, 7200rpm, 6GB/s)

PRICE: 1182,21$

Computer 2

Motherboard: Gigabyte Z87-HD3 motherboard (Ultra Durable 4 Plus)
CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-4670K 4x3.40GHz (Turbo 3.80GHz)
GPU: Asus GeForce GTX760 2GB OC DirectCUII
RAM: Kingston HyperX 8 GB DDR3-1600 DualChannel
HARDDRIVE 1: Samsung 840 120GB SSD (Solid State Drive)
HARDDRIVE 2: 1TB Seagate Barracuda (SATA3, 7200rpm, 6GB/s)

PRICE: 1337,48$

Computer 3

Motherboard: ASUS Z87-K // MSI - Z87-G45 CFX/SLI
CPU: Intel i5-4670K 3.40GHz (Haswell)
GPU: MSI GTX 660 TwinFrozr 2GB, OverClocked!
RAM: G.Skill RIPJAWS Gaming 2133 Mhz, 8 GB, DUAL CHANNEL!
HARDDRIVE: WD/Seagate 500GB Harddrive 7200 rpm.

PRICE: 1243,52$

I also have another question...

How big is the difference between 8GB 1600 Mhz ram and 8GB 2133 Mhz ram?

[Toffie]

The question is, will you overclock?
Else I would go for computer 1.

These computers come with OS/case/powersupply?

No difference in ram speed above 1600MHz when gaming.

[Deleted]

I am not that clever on overcloking, but Computer 3 comes with watercooling.

And yes, the computers comes with Case and a powersupply, but not OS.

But my question still remains.. will these computers be able to play Battlefield 4 on high graphic?

[Skallfraktur]

Not sure, I have the 660 myself and I'm not entirely sure you'll run BF4 on high with that. Might be completely wrong though ofc.

[Drakiru]

The 500 GB HD of 3 might be a bit low depending on what other things you're going to use the computer for.
If you're concerned about loading speeds the SSD of 2 should help if you install the games on it.

[Alexeht]

vote on 1st system

[Deleted]

Thanks for the replies.

The loading speeds does not concern me at all - all I care about is game performance.

I really don't want to buy the cheapest one of them (Computer 1) and then regret it as it might not be able to play the future games I would like.

[Flipswix]

1st system, add an SSD.

It has the most powerful graphics card while the rest stays the same. It's cheaper too.

[Alexeht]

Dude 1st system have best GPU. 1600 Mhz ram is ok and you can always buy ssd yourself.

2nd and 3rd is ripoff

[Deleted]

Even tho the CPU is a 4670 "NON K" edition?

[Flipswix]

the "K" is only if you are planning to overclock the CPU.

[Alexeht]

Even tho the CPU is a 4670 "NON K" edition?

You will OC it? Then why just not build own system. If you will not OC then just buy 1st - is just best option without oc

[Deleted]

Hmm, what does a SSD do other than improving load speed?

[Drakiru]

your pc can read data faster from an SSD

[Toffie]

Nothing.
Your whole system will feel extremely smooth though.

Any chance you can build yourself? It's easier than you might think.

Guide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4Js2...1D9BF9F40D0E5E

[Flipswix]

That's practically all an SSD does. It loads things faster, making your overall PC experience alot better. Once you have worked with an SSD you don't want to go back. However, it's up to you if you buy one. In my opinion it is the best upgrade you can give a decent PC nowadays because anything installed on it will just be read way quicker. This makes starting up windows, your browser, office, adobe or any game you install on it load a big bit faster. Nowadays SSD's are rather affordable and if you have money to spend extra, use it for such a thing.

[Deffry]

Faster loading of files speeds up computer overall.

[Deleted]

There is just so little space on a 120 GB one.. and a 250 GB is another 100$.

[jmt]

Build one yourself and save some money!

120GB SSD is nothing with the 20GB game installs. However, Intel has SSD Raid caching or you can grab a hybrid HDD.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($199.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H60 54.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus Z87-K ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Black Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($56.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Momentus XT 750GB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Arctic White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1169.90
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-08 11:01 EDT-0400)

If you shopped around or were willing to change on some components, you could shave another 10 - 15% off that cost.

[Deleted]

This is fine if you assume he is willing to build it himself, like you mentioned which is not a bad idea mind you.

Don't get 1.65v RAM with this build.

"Meh" PSU, CX series is really not great.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Silverstone AR03 81.4 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($47.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z87 Pro3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($62.13 @ TigerDirect)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($96.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($76.99 @ Best Buy)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 770 2GB Video Card ($399.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: NZXT Source 220 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.03 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: XFX 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($87.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1227.05
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-07-08 14:53 EDT-0400)

120GB SSD, included a WD Black HDD in case you have games not fitting on the SSD, with the Black drive they'll still run/load relatively fast/better compared to the Blue version.

As for building it yourself, it's really not that hard:

Newegg TV: How To Build a Computer - Part 1 - Choosing Your Components
Newegg TV: How To Build a Computer - Part 2 - The Build
Newegg TV: How To Build a Computer - Part 3 - Installing Windows & Finishing Touches