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    Garrosh is a threat to the Forsaken. What other reason would she need? She knows the value of her other alliances.
    "Terror, darkness, power? The Forsaken crave not these things; the Forsaken ARE these things."

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamthedevil View Post
    Thrall did that, not Garrosh.
    Go back and do the questline. Garrosh has them keeping a close eye on her.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuBw7XXemy4
    Last edited by Freia; 2013-07-08 at 05:32 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathreim View Post
    The Horde helps keep her safe.
    And she gets to bolster her army afterwards with the corpses of Garrosh's minions. It's a win-win for her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iamthedevil View Post
    Thrall did that, not Garrosh.
    To be fair, at the time, the Kor'kron were the most trustworthy guards under Thrall's command, as opposed to the Abombs who turned against Sylvanas.

    Obviously now, they're the only muscle Garrosh has in the Undercity, and need to be disposed of ASAP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zantos View Post
    He sent Kor'kron all over her city to keep an eye on her and what she does.
    those Kor'kron have been there since the Wrathgate
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freia View Post
    Go back and do the questline. Garrosh has them keeping a close eye on her.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuBw7XXemy4
    he isn't talking about that, he is talking about the kor'kron in Undercity which were sent by Thrall after the Wrathgate event to help protect the Undercity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freia View Post
    Go back and do the questline. Garrosh has them keeping a close eye on her.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OuBw7XXemy4
    Thrall posted Kor'kron guards in UC after the Wrathgate incident. High Warlord Cromush, who Garrosh ordered to guard Sylvanas, is not part of the Kor'kron.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Togarox View Post
    he isn't talking about that, he is talking about the kor'kron in Undercity which were sent by Thrall after the Wrathgate event to help protect the Undercity.
    Yea and? You really think they are still there because Thrall sent them now? Blizzard doesn't update things so use common sense. They are there because of Garrosh now.

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    She has always, and will continue to, do what is best for her. She always has her own agenda. She hates Garrosh because he leads...not her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freia View Post
    Yea and? You really think they are still there because Thrall sent them now? Blizzard doesn't update things so use common sense. They are there because of Garrosh now.
    My point, which you missed, was that you were trying to prove someone wrong who was in fact correct. Who knows if the Kor'kron are actually still in Undercity. Like you stated, Blizzard doesn't update things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aquamonkey View Post
    The Horde is family. Sylvanas just the misunderstood goth sister.
    No, Sylvanas will turn around and kill the entire horde if she ever came upon enough power, then raise them again to be part of her actual "family"
    It's like crossing an intersection. There's shit going on all over the place and you don't panic and act like an idiot then do you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Togarox View Post
    Who knows if the Kor'kron are actually still in Undercity. Like you stated, Blizzard doesn't update things.
    well the latest "update" on that front was a line saying they were still there in the Shattering (Pre-Cata)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fhaust View Post
    She has always, and will continue to, do what is best for her. She always has her own agenda. She hates Garrosh because he leads...not her.
    I doubt she wants to be in the spotlight of Horde politics. In fact, it runs entirely counter to her agenda since that would mean the orcs, tauren, trolls, pandaren, and goblins seeing what the Alliance and the blood elves see.

    She's pissed at Garrosh because he's now using the Kor'kron to hold the Undercity hostage to ensure Sylvanas follows orders, he's using the Forsaken as meat shields to keep his orcs safe in the Eastern Kingdoms front (and following her taste of what the afterlife has waiting for her, that's no bueno in her book since the Forsaken are her buffer between undeath and the unending hell that is her afterlife), and because he's kind of a huge dick, albeit an arguably-justified one regarding her use of the Val'kyr (the Forsaken questlines leave it intentionally grey as to whether raising undead is a bad thing when you give them the choice of what to do with themselves, including returning to death; though CDev posters have noted that she takes advantage of their momentary confusion in Hillsbrad, there is no overt mind control taking place and they were given the same choice you see other Forsaken making in the starting zone). Further, helping the Rebellion wins her back a little slack and keeps the rebels off her back while they get themselves back in order, leaving her room to pursue her agenda with fewer interruptions/orcish "bodyguards."

    All that adds up to her hating him more than she is indifferent to her allies' needs, enough so that she commits the Forsaken to the rebellion, and this is without taking into account the possibility that Garrosh simply full-on pissed her off for the last time by holding the Undercity hostage and demanded she get involved in the war on his behalf.

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    Payback for that "bitch" comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callei View Post
    I doubt she wants to be in the spotlight of Horde politics. In fact, it runs entirely counter to her agenda since that would mean the orcs, tauren, trolls, pandaren, and goblins seeing what the Alliance and the blood elves see.

    She's pissed at Garrosh because he's now using the Kor'kron to hold the Undercity hostage to ensure Sylvanas follows orders, he's using the Forsaken as meat shields to keep his orcs safe in the Eastern Kingdoms front (and following her taste of what the afterlife has waiting for her, that's no bueno in her book since the Forsaken are her buffer between undeath and the unending hell that is her afterlife), and because he's kind of a huge dick, albeit an arguably-justified one regarding her use of the Val'kyr (the Forsaken questlines leave it intentionally grey as to whether raising undead is a bad thing when you give them the choice of what to do with themselves, including returning to death; though CDev posters have noted that she takes advantage of their momentary confusion in Hillsbrad, there is no overt mind control taking place and they were given the same choice you see other Forsaken making in the starting zone). Further, helping the Rebellion wins her back a little slack and keeps the rebels off her back while they get themselves back in order, leaving her room to pursue her agenda with fewer interruptions/orcish "bodyguards."

    All that adds up to her hating him more than she is indifferent to her allies' needs, enough so that she commits the Forsaken to the rebellion, and this is without taking into account the possibility that Garrosh simply full-on pissed her off for the last time by holding the Undercity hostage and demanded she get involved in the war on his behalf.
    Sylvanas also has a soft spot for the Blood Elves. She might be a little peeved at Garrosh throwing away Blood Elf lives too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thermaplugg yer butt View Post

    Or maybe she just wants corpses.
    This. You've already answered yourself. Lor'themar threatens her to not raise the dead in his voice files.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Destinas View Post
    This. You've already answered yourself. Lor'themar threatens her to not raise the dead in his voice files.
    not to raise blood elves maybe doubt he gives a shit about ally or even kor'kron

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callei View Post
    Garrosh simply full-on pissed her off for the last time by holding the Undercity hostage and demanded she get involved in the war on his behalf.
    where does it say that?
    Sylvannas didnt invade Gilneas ever so grudgingly, she had her own reasons for going into that nation
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    she will ress garrosh as 1 of her undead minions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dreknar20 View Post
    where does it say that?
    Sylvannas didnt invade Gilneas ever so grudgingly, she had her own reasons for going into that nation
    It still wasn't her choice, however. It was that, or have the Forsaken's veteran soldiers thrown away as fodder.

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