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  1. #581
    dont care if you can buy transmog stuff in the store aslong as they dont have stats on them that require us to buy them for upgrades. Since this is not the case, why QQ. if you dont want them, dont buy them.

  2. #582
    Its either monthly sub with access to 100% game content or FTP with game shop.. you cant dip both hands into the honey jar bliz and if you do so, you will regret it....

    ps: Do I need to point out how insulting this feels for a 8 year subscriber/customer ???

  3. #583
    Quote Originally Posted by Skr View Post
    The bear is long dead. The server/faction transfer and name/race change were necessary, it allowed players to keep their toon, without having to reroll all the time, the prices were justifyed- so the people won't abuse/overuse it for no reason. If memory serves right, they opened the Pet Store for charity reasons, which was a great thing to do. However, after seeing how successful it was, Blizzard became greedy. Around that time the "bear" was already dying, and now, few years later, they are just poking the dead body.
    As often is the case in discussions like this, memory served you wrong. Only one of the initial pets were sold for charity.

  4. #584
    Quote Originally Posted by shikokumaji View Post

    This expansion we have gotten MORE content in a shorter amount of time.
    Aka, more bang for your buck. How is that 'getting less for their sub fee' when Blizzard has been working their butts off to push out content faster?

    If you want to say 'lack of respect to the player' ... look back at previous expansions. Wrath was super drawn out in the final tier with barely any additional content, a revamped Naxx and ToC. Cata was also very drawn out, a huge raid was scrapped in mid production and DS was for the most part a rehashed model joke and a short tier that lasted for way too long without any new content after it. In terms of gaps, those 2 expansions alone were more of a waste of subscription money than MoP has ever been since release. MoP has had short tiers, quick content updates and has given us 3 tiers in less than a year. It has been the most value for your sub, the most value the game has ever seen.

    Blizzard pretty much bends over backwards for the entire community, listens to almost every single thing that the playerbase demands of them -- and people still have the nerve to say they are ripping us off because of a cosmetic addition to the cash shop?
    Just because Blizzard decided to spend most of their WOW subscription money into TITAN past 4 years does not make the "speed" the are making new "content" any more convincing.

    Most of the content added this expansion has been done by moving resources within the company. For example: No more 5 man dungeons and instead they moved the group to make new raid bosses.

    3 Tiers in less than a year? .... Stick to facts. We only have two so far.

    And yes..... I have the nerve to tell ANY game company that decides to blend the very worst of Sub based game and F2P game together and act like its for the good of the consumer... that they are talking out of their arse and dont give a flying fuck about their consumers.

  5. #585
    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Primus View Post
    ps: Do I need to point out how insulting this feels for a 8 year subscriber/customer ???
    Please do, because I'm a 8½ year subscriber, and I don't feel insulted at all.

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    When people will start thinking that Blizzard is not a charity but a business with goals to earn as much cash as they can (just like all other businesses out there). If you find peace with that idea, you will find yourself less disturbed by things like pet store.

    It's like complaining that automobile companies release new models of cars every year. Or that mobile companies make new phones every year. Isn't that milking too? I am also unhappy that I have to force myself (oh that word again) change my mobile phone every year because new one has better features than previous one.

    So Blizzard also creates something new to get more cash. Just deal with it and be happy that they created World of Warcraft at all.
    Last edited by alkyd; 2013-07-13 at 12:17 PM.

  7. #587
    Terrible. Helms are awesome but most of the Tier in Mists has sucked. Good thing we pay a subscription fee. Oh wait...

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    Quote Originally Posted by shikokumaji View Post
    Blizzard pretty much bends over backwards for the entire community, listens to almost every single thing that the playerbase demands of them -- and people still have the nerve to say they are ripping us off because of a cosmetic addition to the cash shop?
    Yeah, people like to bitch over nothing. It's pretty amazing actually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siq1ne View Post
    Terrible. Helms are awesome but most of the Tier in Mists has sucked. Good thing we pay a subscription fee. Oh wait...
    Dunno, T15 LFR for pally is so amazing I mogged my ret set to it from T6. That's saying something

  9. #589
    Quote Originally Posted by alkyd View Post
    When people will start thinking that Blizzard is not a charity but a business with goals to earn as much cash as they can (just like all other businesses out there). If you find peace with that idea, you will find yourself less disturbed by things like pet store.

    It's like complaining that automobile companies release new models of cars every year. Or that mobile companies make new phones every year. Isn't that milking too? I am also unhappy that I have to force myself (oh that word again) change my mobile phone every year because new one has better features than previous one.

    So Blizzard also creates something new to get more cash. Just deal with it and be happy that they created World of Warcraft at all.
    I thing the real point is that Blizzard did not create anything new. They just started charging ppl for items that some subscribers are pointing out should be part of the game... not part of the cash shop.

    Example.... these helmets could be part of a quest chain that keeps subscribers interested in playing.

  10. #590
    inb4 wow go P2W really soon...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duster505 View Post
    3 Tiers in less than a year? .... Stick to facts. We only have two so far.
    So Siege of Orgrimmar isn't a raid tier? Am I mistaken?
    We're partway through raid testing -- the tier will probably release sometime around August/Sept.

    If Siege of Org isn't facts then I must be blind.
    Do you think the next tier is coming out near year or something? lol

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  12. #592
    Quote Originally Posted by Duster505 View Post
    And yes..... I have the nerve to tell ANY game company that decides to blend the very worst of Sub based game and F2P game together and act like its for the good of the consumer... that they are talking out of their arse and dont give a flying fuck about their consumers.
    Well, I have a Cube World itch to scrath, so I'll leave you with this crazy thought (and it's really crazy so just try to wrap your imagination around it).

    Maybe they are experimenting with the shop to see if it can carry the game, before they drop the subscription. You know, in stead of waiting for the subscription model to crash and burn like it did for every other game and THEN have to come up with an alternative.

    Yeah I know, crazy. And I know you are going to dismiss it without a rational thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Duster505 View Post
    I thing the real point is that Blizzard did not create anything new. They just started charging ppl for items that some subscribers are pointing out should be part of the game... not part of the cash shop.
    They did not create anything new? Have you checked out the 5.4 PTR?
    I know it's crazy but, its full of new mount/boss/raid models, new tier and season gear, a new raid, new quests (legendary cloak!), new zone, new world bosses, new technology (virtual realms) ... seriously what more do you want? Blizzard to serve you breakfast from your computer chair? ffs. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by shikokumaji View Post
    I know it's crazy but, its full of new mount/boss/raid models, new tier and season gear, a new raid, new quests (legendary cloak!), new zone, new world bosses, new technology (virtual realms) ... seriously what more do you want? Blizzard to serve you breakfast from your computer chair? ffs. lol
    WoW doing the cooking for me IRL would be a nice addition
    But seriously, I totally agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duster505 View Post
    I thing the real point is that Blizzard did not create anything new. They just started charging ppl for items that some subscribers are pointing out should be part of the game... not part of the cash shop.

    Example.... these helmets could be part of a quest chain that keeps subscribers interested in playing.
    No the point is to get more cash from subscribers who can't resist but spend their money on vanity items.

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    Don't have to buy the hats to perform better, so don't care.

    However all those with said hats will become my number one targets in bgs.

  17. #597
    Quote Originally Posted by shikokumaji View Post
    So Siege of Orgrimmar isn't a raid tier? Am I mistaken?
    We're partway through raid testing -- the tier will probably release sometime around August/Sept.

    If Siege of Org isn't facts then I must be blind.
    Do you think the next tier is coming out near year or something? lol
    Siege of Org is not out. Fact. Lets stick to facts if you are gonna argue a point. Somehow ppl seems to forget that Blizzard staff will be taking summer vacations in July and August like every year so expecting a new patch in that time is very unlikely.

    And lets stick to facts....

    Cataclysm launched December 7th 2010. Last raid tier of Cataclysm was launched November 29th 2011. That's less than a year as well. And THAT'S a fact.

  18. #598
    Just Blizzard slapping the player base one more time. I absolutely loath this type of micro transations on a sub based game. They make sense on f2p games like LoL or PoE... not on a expensive game like WoW.

    Oh well, players will just throw money at them, regardless of quality or principles. Good on Blizzard for milking them out.

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    Vivendi have been wanting money from Activision blizard for a while now, according to some media atleast - you can google to find other sources (than the one ill post below) and news explaining how vivendi (majority stock holder in activision) are in need of some money. I figure this is how they plan to do so - So not the end of the world, but simply something that they where "forced" to, aka it happens.

    We all can be glad its simply vanity items, and tbh when transmogrification where released, can anyone here honestly say they never tought it would appear items on their store for this feature? - i know i knew it would only be a matter of time, in fact i tought it would of happen sooner.

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    Since i cant post links yet you'll have to find the sources for yourself. "errormsg: You are not allowed to post any kinds of links, images or videos until you post a few times. "
    You can start by going to vivendis homepage, click on the press link (far right side) then sub-link "in the media" on the left side, should be something from The wall Street Journal there.
    For another source you can scirmish through some of the comments made on blizzards own post regarding this.


    All in all, no need to panic, its buissness and they most likely had to give back or give their stock holder something in return this time around.
    And it's not like blizzard pushes out content for the store, on a daily hell even weekly or monthly basis - so i doubt the world (of warcraft) will suffer from this, or the few hours theyve spent on the design for these items.

    And like most store items, they wont be "cool" to have ingame, so no worries - your super awesome raid- pvpgear will still be greater than these in the eye of the beholder ingame.

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    true, even if you buy the items, you will get bored of them in less than a month. Everyone will, even those who didn't buy them will get bored of seeing them on other players' toons.

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