10-year-old boy drowns in Stillaguamish River.

[Buxton McGraff]

My thought are, where are you reading this from? In your link

Not sure where you live but around here a 10 year old doesn't need a life jacket anymore. Once you turn 7 you no longer are required to wear a life jacket.

I was required to wear a life jacket until I was 16 I believe.
That's in Minnesota.
Maybe I was 13. It was between 13-16 and that was required.

[Orange Joe]

What if she's all coked out too?

Careful, you might be attributing to the "rape culture"

[want my Slimjim]

Pulling a drunk woman out of a jacuzzi does not count.

Not a Jacuzzi but from a river. nice try but i'm done here. I said my thoughts on the subject and heard your opinion so guess were done here?

[Reeve]

Careful, you might be attributing to the "rape culture"

By rescuing a drowning jacuzzi woman?

[Crissi]

Could he swim, and the current was just to strong? Was something wrapped around his ankle? Because if he drowned merely because he couldn't swim, I'd put that blame on the parents. ALL children should know how to swim, even if they don't go to a pool / river / lake often or at all.

[Orange Joe]

I was required to wear a life jacket until I was 16 I believe.
That's in Minnesota.
Maybe I was 13. It was between 13-16 and that was required.

Mind you they are only legally required while on a boat of some sorts.


Also for Minnesota

http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/safety/bo..._childlaw.html


If i'm reading this right it was 13 and now is 10?

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By rescuing a drowning jacuzzi woman?

Nope for the coked/drunk part




(I was being sarcastic/joking btw)

[want my Slimjim]

Could he swim, and the current was just to strong? Was something wrapped around his ankle? Because if he drowned merely because he couldn't swim, I'd put that blame on the parents. ALL children should know how to swim, even if they don't go to a pool / river / lake often or at all.

there are whirlpools in rivers believe it or not.

[Redmage]

Pulling a drunk woman out of a jacuzzi does not count.

Hey I once had a drunk guy stab me in the shoulder with a fork for catching him when he fell.

[Crissi]

there are whirlpools in rivers believe it or not.

yeah I know, and 'd put that in the same category as swift current ad being tangled up, meaning it wasn't for a lack of ability.

[Sierra85]

the loss of life is tragic.

[Ashnazg]

I have so yes. And it's not as hard as it sounds. Everyone on here so far doesn't have a clue when saving someone from drowning and no it isn't a bad idea people that are saying otherwise I just laugh at them and continue to move on.

It might be feasible to pull out a kid if you're big and burly, and the kid is tiny and knows what not to do. If you're trying to pull out a person who is of comparable frame and is prone to panic, you're fucked.

I had to go through it not 5 days ago, trying to pull an exhausted friend out of a lake. No currents, no adverse water condition, just had to help her get up a bunch of slippery rocks to get out of a lake, and she still managed to make me get a lungfull of water while thrashing about.

Also - re: swimming in rivers. I grew up basically as far away from the ocean as you can possibly get (1-1.5 thousand miles into each direction to even get to an ocean) and swimming in rivers and lakes was the only option. I was told from childhood that should I ever get into a whirlpool I should dive to the bottom as fast as possible, and swim out along the river bottom.

Anyone tried that in practice?

[Altrec]

I have so yes. And it's not as hard as it sounds. Everyone on here so far doesn't have a clue when saving someone from drowning and no it isn't a bad idea people that are saying otherwise I just laugh at them and continue to move on.

Outside of throwing them a rope it is a really bad idea to try and directly rescue a conscious drowning victim. Laugh at them if you want but they are right.

[mickybrighteyes]

By rescuing a drowning jacuzzi woman?

She couldn't consent to whatever she wasn't aware of what you may or may not have been doing to her?

[want my Slimjim]

Outside of throwing them a rope it is a really bad idea to try and directly rescue a conscious drowning victim. Laugh at them if you want but they are right.

No they're not, that's the sad part.

[Garnier Fructis]

Thread in a nutshell: People like OP think TV reflects reality.

[Deleted]

No they're not, that's the sad part.

Everyone in this thread is wrong apart from you then?

[Altrec]

No they're not, that's the sad part.

"Drowning victims are probably the most dangerous to try to rescue. In a panic, drowning victims are likely to claw at rescuers and climb to the surface at all costs. NEVER attempt a direct rescue of a conscious drowning victim without proper training."

That is the first line of pretty much every guide book dealing with drowning victims. So yes, they are right.

[Orange Joe]

No they're not, that's the sad part.

You don't understand how often the rescuer ends up drowning with the victim. It happens more often than not.

[want my Slimjim]

You don't understand how often the rescuer ends up drowning with the victim. It happens more often than not.

I do understand what you're trying to say but this is simply not true at all.

[Payday]

The only thing criminal is the name of that poor river.