[BrM] Trinkets

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So I don't know which trinket to choose, I got Vicious talisman of the shado-pan assualt (530), which I always have used, Rune of Re-Origination (502), and Talisman of Bloodlust (502). I also have Rentakkis with 536 ilvl and I don't want to switch that one.

I recently changed my stats a bit and went from 6k haste to 4,7k and got a few % more crit. Rune seems very nice and I don't feel like my energy regen is too low when it procs, I go from ~40% crit to around 67% depending if rentakki has procced.

If it helps a bit my progression is 4/12 normal.

http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/characte...Lyina/advanced

Edit: Forgot to mension that I have Bad juju (502) and Fortitude of Zandalar (522).

[sosleapy]

Rentaki is BiS get a fort of zandalari as that is also BiS even if lfr version

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Rentaki is BiS get a fort of zandalari as that is also BiS even if lfr version

I have Fortitude of Zandalari normal version, but what I've learned mastery is only good for 25 man and I am raiding 10m.
Also forgot to mention in first post that I also have bad juju (502).

[SurrealNight]

I also have Rentakkis with 536 ilvl and I don't want to switch that one.

Your not going to like my advice then =P I would go with Shado-Pan + Renataki's. While this will put you over the hit cap a good chunk this can be fixed by getting some 1H to drop your way (which can randomly or from Council) as the Staff is as much the culprit as the trinkets are. I don't feel like the 502 RoRo is enough gain due to a pretty low drop rate to be a solid choice (which any level is already a bit ecliptic already for BrM).

Also, you can vendor the 502 Bloodlust, or toss it into the ocean. It's about the worst trinket for us in T15 not counting the really bad "EH" ones.

I run with AMR's crit build and don't see any issues with it's suggestion for you with those trinket choices: http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/eu/outland/lyina

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Rentaki is BiS get a fort of zandalari as that is also BiS even if lfr version

Speaking of bad EH trinkets. I wouldn't wear even the 549 version of that trinket, ~2% Shuffle + crappy proc compared to your other 535+ options that would be available? The only 'good' tank trinket IMO is the Soul Barrier and that soly (hehe) due to having a huge amount of Stam for a cheap EH boost.

Also, if that cruddy Ji-kun trinket drops (we got 2 last week) I'm going to scream.

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Your not going to like my advice then =P I would go with Shado-Pan + Renataki's. While this will put you over the hit cap a good chunk this can be fixed by getting some 1H to drop your way (which can randomly or from Council) as the Staff is as much the culprit as the trinkets are. I don't feel like the 502 RoRo is enough gain due to a pretty low drop rate to be a solid choice (which any level is already a bit ecliptic already for BrM).

Also, you can vendor the 502 Bloodlust, or toss it into the ocean. It's about the worst trinket for us in T15 not counting the really bad "EH" ones.

I run with AMR's crit build and don't see any issues with it's suggestion for you with those trinket choices: http://www.askmrrobot.com/wow/gear/eu/outland/lyina

Hmm, I meant that I like Rentakkis, anyways what's wrong with the staff? I guess I could try to get one more 1h, I already have Thunderforged council axe.

[SurrealNight]

It has a ton of hit you can't escape from in a tier that loads you up on a lot of hit, also 2H doesn't benefit at all by going over the cap unlike DW. Plus all the 1h weapons may not be ideally itemized (such as having mastery) but at least they don't have hit =P

I've always liked DW better but right now it also means you can gear your other slots without going over the cap (I need to fix my forges but I can get below 7.5% even at my iLevel).

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I found a hand of animus lfr version in my bank, should try to go with my "old" trinkets, rentakki and Shado-pan and then AMR's crit build.

[sosleapy]

BiS is fort of zandalari especially for 25 man not great for 10 man. All I run is 25 man and I love my mastery being high. U get hit like trains in 25 man and that 2% stagger is better than anything else

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The good thing about the staffs hit is everything else that has hit can be reforged and gems won't need hit on them. This way with staff u will only be like 1% over but it is all personal preference

[SurrealNight]

No iLevel is still king for BrM weapons you'll need to wait until you get at least a 522+ 1H and then maybe use that as an off.

Yeah I run 25m HC and have never felt the need to bid on fort of zand. The multiple high agil proc's provide a lot more than just 2% shuffle (which you can get through gems/enchants/forging) provides. Also if you look at the link he ends up > 10% hit so no the staffs hit rating is not a "good thing".

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No iLevel is still king for BrM weapons you'll need to wait until you get at least a 522+ 1H and then maybe use that as an off.

Yeah I run 25m HC and have never felt the need to bid on fort of zand. The multiple high agil proc's provide a lot more than just 2% shuffle (which you can get through gems/enchants/forging) provides. Also if you look at the link he ends up > 10% hit so no the staffs hit rating is not a "good thing".

Damn I've already fixed everything now... Well let's hope I can grab a 522 one in the raid today.

[Baristan]

BiS is fort of zandalari

Maybe it's because I run 10s and not 25s, but Bad Juju from Council beats Fortitude of the Zandalari easily. The OP is doing normal modes where the extra health on use from FotZ is not needed at all.

[Miuh]

I've tanked all the bosses (even if it's my off spec), and I have never needed a fort of zandalari, so meh BadJuju+Renataki's are BIS imo

[Feali]

I'm rocking Renataki and RoRo and I'm loving it! Both heroic.
The expertise from Renataki is a musthave and it is by far the best trinket this content. Now between Bad Juju and RoRo I have to say for my crit build RoRo just wins. Mastery is the worst stat and RoRo just gives the best overall DMG increase. Also the procc just gets me instantly to 15 stacks.

Speaking from 10 man perspective.

[sosleapy]

No iLevel is still king for BrM weapons you'll need to wait until you get at least a 522+ 1H and then maybe use that as an off.

Yeah I run 25m HC and have never felt the need to bid on fort of zand. The multiple high agil proc's provide a lot more than just 2% shuffle (which you can get through gems/enchants/forging) provides. Also if you look at the link he ends up > 10% hit so no the staffs hit rating is not a "good thing".

link to your toon please. All sights say fort is BiS for anything.....

[gynshon]

I'm rocking Renataki and RoRo and I'm loving it! Both heroic.
The expertise from Renataki is a musthave and it is by far the best trinket this content. Now between Bad Juju and RoRo I have to say for my crit build RoRo just wins. Mastery is the worst stat and RoRo just gives the best overall DMG increase. Also the procc just gets me instantly to 15 stacks.

Speaking from 10 man perspective.

Why do you feel RoRo wins? http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-jz...5/?s=172&e=268 Tonight's Jinrokh. Juju procced twice in a 1m30s fight. Crit provides crit, Agil provides so much more, and my tests (albeit limited) have shown the Juju is better than Roro even for a crit build.

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link to your toon please. All sights say fort is BiS for anything.....

Just because some sites say it is BiS, most of those sites don't have top progression raiders writing them. Fort of Zand trinket is HORRIBLE. An on use HP increase every 2 mins with static Mastery? Horrible. Even for 25man, I don't see many taking this trinket.

[sosleapy]

Why do you feel RoRo wins? http://worldoflogs.com/reports/rt-jz...5/?s=172&e=268 Tonight's Jinrokh. Juju procced twice in a 1m30s fight. Crit provides crit, Agil provides so much more, and my tests (albeit limited) have shown the Juju is better than Roro even for a crit build.

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Just because some sites say it is BiS, most of those sites don't have top progression raiders writing them. Fort of Zand trinket is HORRIBLE. An on use HP increase every 2 mins with static Mastery? Horrible. Even for 25man, I don't see many taking this trinket.

Guess u don't know who sunnier is then lol. One of the most respected players in th monk community lol guess someone is just afraid to link their armoy

[matthias9742]

Guess u don't know who sunnier is then lol. One of the most respected players in th monk community lol guess someone is just afraid to link their armoy

I am not even sure how anyone would respond to this. His name and guild is right there, as is a clickable armory link in his sig.
ilvl 548 says he might have done just a few heroics. . .

[sosleapy]

All in all its good to have a bunch if trinkets as a lot of fights are situational

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And looking at bad juju I kinda like that more now than fort too

[Vasilisa]

Am I the only one liking Roro?

Speaking of which I haven't seen problem with my survival yet (currently at 7/13 hc). However I'm raiding 10 man. So far I prefer dps > more survival. Maybe some of the next bosses (Primordius?) will change that.

[Pariah]

Guess u don't know who sunnier is then lol. One of the most respected players in th monk community lol guess someone is just afraid to link their armoy

You might have signatures turned off but the guy you're talking to references his armory and his guild, both of which are extremely respectable. (Nothing against this other person you're mentioning.)

On topic: I'd take Rentaki's always and shuffle between RoRo and Bad Juju depending on the fight. Every other "tank" trinket is a shard fest from me. Maybe a TF H Lei Shen Stam trinket for something random just to have in my bags but that's about it trinket wise.