[QLD, Australia] Dad released on bail for Tourture of child

[Romire]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/...leased-on-bail

An Indonesian man accused of whipping his son with an electrical cable and forcing him to eat a hot chilli has been released from custody on the condition his contact with the boy is supervised.

The man, who cannot be named to protect his eight-year-old son's identity, was granted bail in the Brisbane Magistrates Court on Wednesday.
He will be taken to an immigration detention centre, Legal Aid lawyer Angelique Clarey told the court.
The man lived in Brisbane's northern suburbs and has a wife and young baby.
He was arrested in May and charged with torture and assault occasioning bodily harm while armed.
He was shocked to discover such discipline is illegal in Australia, his then duty lawyer told the court last month.
A hearing has been set down for August 18.


He should of been kept in jail i reckon

[Deleted]

Hot chili as disciplining tool ? Well, at least you can say he's got imagination.

[zorkuus]

Must be pretty shocking to find out you can't torture your own child. The horror.

[RyanEX]

The chili thing I don't get but call me crazy for seeing the beating of his kid as more as discipline and not torture.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

The chili thing I don't get but call me crazy for seeing the beating of his kid as more as discipline and not torture.

You're crazy. Using a Electric Cable? Eating a Hot Chili? Seriously you can't say that's discipline with a straight face.

[Mormolyce]

An Indonesian man accused of whipping his son with an electrical cable and forcing him to eat a hot chilli

Okay the cable is obviously bad, but forced to eat hot chilli? Isn't that just called being Indonesian?

[zorkuus]

The chili thing I don't get but call me crazy for seeing the beating of his kid as more as discipline and not torture.

Do you know how much he beat him? Maybe the authorities have a closer view on the situation than you do?

[Bakis]

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/...leased-on-bail

An Indonesian man accused of whipping his son with an electrical cable and forcing him to eat a hot chilli has been released from custody on the condition his contact with the boy is supervised.

The man, who cannot be named to protect his eight-year-old son's identity, was granted bail in the Brisbane Magistrates Court on Wednesday.
He will be taken to an immigration detention centre, Legal Aid lawyer Angelique Clarey told the court.
The man lived in Brisbane's northern suburbs and has a wife and young baby.
He was arrested in May and charged with torture and assault occasioning bodily harm while armed.
He was shocked to discover such discipline is illegal in Australia, his then duty lawyer told the court last month.
A hearing has been set down for August 18.


He should of been kept in jail i reckon

So you want to change the legislation I reckon? Which is fine.
From the layout of your post it seems you are angry at what is happening when all they can do is following the law.

"He should" doesnt mean jack shit.

[RyanEX]

You're crazy. Using a Electric Cable? Eating a Hot Chili? Seriously you can't say that's discipline with a straight face.

Depends on the cable. If it's on of the smaller core one's then it's just like if you were beating him with a belt. Which is ok. If it's one of the heavier cores though...then yeah I could see it as torture.

But thing is that so many countries flip their lids over the idea of striking children that it's not hard to see what he was doing as getting blown out of proportion.

[Greed001]

Damn these cultural boundaries!

[Mempha]

You're crazy. Using a Electric Cable? Eating a Hot Chili? Seriously you can't say that's discipline with a straight face.

In all honesty I can't say it is too far fetched. When I was a Child I got the Belt if I was overly bad, and If i swore I got hot sauce on my tongue. Kind of seems like a much more hardcore version of basic discipline. Must be from the Middle East.

[RyanEX]

In all honesty I can't say it is too far fetched. When I was a Child I got the Belt if I was overly bad, and If i swore I got hot sauce on my tongue. Kind of seems like a much more hardcore version of basic discipline. Must be from the Middle East.

Same here, only I got my mouth washed out with soap. Kid's these days are treated like fine china and realise they can get away with anything short of murder.

[zorkuus]

Depends on the cable. If it's on of the smaller core one's then it's just like if you were beating him with a belt. Which is ok. If it's one of the heavier cores though...then yeah I could see it as torture.

But thing is that so many countries flip their lids over the idea of striking children that it's not hard to see what he was doing as getting blown out of proportion.

If it was just a light beating but if even light beating is against the law then it's not blown out of proportion.

[Splatter]

Depends on the cable. If it's on of the smaller core one's then it's just like if you were beating him with a belt. Which is ok. If it's one of the heavier cores though...then yeah I could see it as torture.

But thing is that so many countries flip their lids over the idea of striking children that it's not hard to see what he was doing as getting blown out of proportion.

You've obviously never been whipped with an electrical cable. The small ones sting like crazy and have a greater chance of breaking the skin, i'll take a thicker one any day. As for beating a kid with a belt (or electrical cable), you do that here and you go to jail. There is a difference between discipline and unnecessary violence.

[Deleted]

Look. Guys, In indonesia, the culture is bit different. If you'd go and tell a man who is the head of the family there that he cannot discipline his own son, the whole village would laugh at your face, they really dont know how the 'western' world handles things.

[RyanEX]

You've obviously never been whipped with an electrical cable. The small ones sting like crazy and have a greater chance of breaking the skin, i'll take a thicker one any day. As for beating a kid with a belt (or electrical cable), you do that here and you go to jail. There is a difference between discipline and unnecessary violence.

Cable no, but I was raised under corporal punishment both at home AND in school. And if it doesn't hurt/sting, then it's a pointless exercise. The point when I realised that children in the so called "civilised" countries were out of control was when a child said to his father, who had his hand raised as if he was going to strike him, "I'll call the police".

[zorkuus]

The point when I realised that children in the so called "civilised" countries were out of control was when a child said to his father, who had his hand raised as if he was going to strike him, "I'll call the police".

I weep for you that you cannot live in a world where violence upon children is accepted anymore.

[Splatter]

Cable no, but I was raised under corporal punishment both at home AND in school. And if it doesn't hurt/sting, then it's a pointless exercise. The point when I realised that children in the so called "civilised" countries were out of control was when a child said to his father, who had his hand raised as if he was going to strike him, "I'll call the police".

I said that to my mother once (although it was child services and not the police) and she hit me even harder. She even hit me with a piece of wood with a nail in the end of it once. Violence =/= Discipline. ever.

[RyanEX]

I weep for you that you cannot live in a world where violence upon children is accepted anymore.

There is violence and then there's discipline. They're two very different animals.

And, as I said in another thread, it seems to make parents all the more eager to simply kick their kids out of the house when they come of age since that is the one thing they can completely control. How different is that?

[Sunseeker]

Well a power cable isn't that different from a belt, though the plug-end could cause some serious damage.