Martin Family Attorney Says It’s Her Duty to Be a “Social Engineer”

[Jaxi]

Oh? In threads that have nothing to do with conservatives?

It's difficult to catch you in those kinds of threads.

[Wells]

It's difficult to catch you in those kinds of threads.

Is there a point to this?

[Anprionsa]

What you mean like evidence? Starting to look a little pink there comrade.

?? I don't think we are on the same page with that comment.

[Skarssen]

Maybe she can take pointers from the state prosecutor's office on how to attempt conceal evidence from the defense that is/was damaging to the prosecutions case. I'm sure it wouldn't hurt her professional reputation more than "I want to change the world by ignoring laws and produce legislation based on feelings".

[Sunseeker]

You know, in another thread people were saying you shouldn't follow the law if you think it's a bad law.

That is an entirely contextual issue.

[kivipää]

Woman needs her law license revoked. First of all, social engineering is the art of tricking people into giving you their security information. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_...ing_(security)

And it is certainly not her job to try to circumvent the court's decision when she loses. That's not how justice works.

As much as I agree with you in this case, the bolded part requires adressing. Basically, you are implying that since a sentece was given according to law, it's justice. Justice and Law aren't mutually inclusive. While it's possible ofr what is law to be just/justice, justice isn't necessarily law, and something being law doesn't automatically make it just.

For example;
In United Arab Emirates, a woman can get jail time from getting raped. It's the law, but is it just?
In China, you can get thrown to jail from voicing any negativity aganst the Party. It's also in the law.

Laws are what lawmakers make them and if lawmakers aren't just, laws won't be either. Just because they might have been in this instance and this locale does not justify equating law=justice everywhere, and not even in every case in the same jurisdiction. Hell, United States itself is so polarised that multiple laws are constantly being proposed, lobbied and opposed passionately because one or the other party thinks they're unjust. You use term "justice" way too lightly here.

[TrumpIsPresident]

For those of us that actually pay attention this is no shock. Social engineering through the manipulation of information and public sway has been standard operating procedure for socialists and communists for generations. This includes the matured American liberal party which, as we're now seeing, has no qualms over telling you exactly how they intend to control you.

[Alvito]

Woman needs her law license revoked. First of all, social engineering is the art of tricking people into giving you their security information. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_...ing_(security)

And it is certainly not her job to try to circumvent the court's decision when she loses. That's not how justice works.

You could also go with the version that is obviously what she meant, but that wouldn't have the same jaded pov that your link did.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_...tical_science)

[zorkuus]

In United Arab Emirates, a woman can get jail time from getting raped. It's the law, but is it just?
In China, you can get thrown to jail from voicing any negativity aganst the Party. It's also in the law.

It is justice from their pov, well some of them (most even in some cases). You can't base your argument against a thing happening in another country from your pov.

[apepi]

If you do not like a law get your state/country to change it, but the ones before him will be grandfathered in. We have the court for a reason.

[Alvito]

She has absolutely no place being a lawyer in this country and again

As the families lawyer she doesn't agree with the outcome of a trial and seeing how they didn't get the outcome they wanted she shouldn't agree with it. If all lawyers had to agree with the outcome of trials they were invested in but did not work then we would be out of lawyers before the end of the year. This is also stoking the fire for the civil trial that is more then certain to start soon. It will almost certainly end up much like the OJ case not guilty by the state by held responsible by civil courts.

[Karrmer]

As the families lawyer she doesn't agree with the outcome of a trial and seeing how they didn't get the outcome they wanted she shouldn't agree with it. If all lawyers had to agree with the outcome of trials they were invested in but did not work then we would be out of lawyers before the end of the year. This is also stoking the fire for the civil trial that is more then certain to start soon. It will almost certainly end up much like the OJ case not guilty by the state by held responsible by civil courts.

Actually, it'll be nearly impossible to make him civilly liable. I'll be shocked if he is.

[Alvito]

Actually, it'll be nearly impossible to make him civilly liable. I'll be shocked if he is.

They will certainly try or they wouldn't still have their lawyer drumming up press. Not sure why you think it will be impossible. Many ppl get off with the state but then foot a heavy bill in civil court. Without the same burden of proof it is easier to get ppl this way.

[Deleted]

It's a Lawyers job to fight for his/her client, isn't it?
So I really see no problem in her doing so...

[Deleted]

You know, in another thread people were saying you shouldn't follow the law if you think it's a bad law.

And why would you?
If you think that a law is ethically wrong, then you either try to change it, or at least won't cooperate with it.
Just because it is "the law", it doesn't makes it in every single case the right thing.
BTW, which thread are we talking about? This?
http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/...rison-in-Dubai

Also there are laws which only there for "nuisance" sometimes.
For ex, I do know many ppl (including myself), who used medications which where kind of illegal.
Well, at least you couldn't have access to them normally, unless you knew the right ppl.
(No, they weren't narcotics, just QOL thingies. And getting them normally took over a year.)

[Laize]

Since when the good god damn is Fox news the voice of reason?