Knowing Voljin, had this been the other way around, he wouldn't enslave the alliance. Why should Varian enslave the horde? That would make him worse then Garrosh. They righted the wrongs caused by Garrosh, and the new horde deserves a chance for redemption.
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1. No, Orcs have always made up a majority of the Horde just like Humans for the Alliance.
2. Just because they're 1/7 doesn't indicate numbers of the actual race. Honestly if you paid attention to most NPCs and races you'd see, it'd be Orcs>Trolls>Undead>=Goblin/Tauren>Blood Elves>Pandaren.
3. Yay agreed.
4. How are they united? Yeah, the sub races of the Horde are now united, but under what? A banner that symbolizes civil war and killing your own brethren? Even though the Horde are now united against the tyranny that is Garrosh, they're besieging their capital city, killing their fellow Horde members (former brothers in arms), and losing a majority of their war power. They're splintered and broken. Even Wrathion states if Varian hadn't decided to take the option of peace he could've kept Orgrimmar and rand-sacked Thunder Bluff. Face it: the Horde, though united and closer than ever before, are also shattered by the end of the Siege.
5. Opinions are opinions, but opinions supported by logical thinking and facts are better said.
WoW lore has been pretty much dogshit since Cata so.
blizzard has previously said every expansion is a year, and when asked about how long mists is on twitter metzen said cata plus mists is one year and the rest are one year each, if you dont believe me you can go on his twitter and find it, it was around mists launch.
and the population estimates arent made up
the darkspear were being hunted to extinction by naga and humans and other troll tribes
the forsaken were being hunted by the scarlet crusade, the scourge, and after betraying the alliance were being attacked on sight by alliance settlements. they started to rebound now with the help of the valkyr
the pandaren are a small group of adventurers, its made clear that the ones who join the alliance and horde are the most adventurous of the pandaren on the turtle
the goblins of the bilgwater cartel are but one of many cartels of goblins. so while the goblin race itself isnt endangered the ones in the horde are not in anyway the majority of the race.
its been stated the scourge wiped out around 90% of the high elves/blood elves. then of whats left 10% remained in the alliance and while its never stated how much a good portion followed kael'thas and died in outland.
the orcs however had many many numbers since the dark council magically aged tons of orcs to invade azeroth with.
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Originally Posted by High Overlord Saurfangi7-6700 @2.8GHz | Nvidia GTX 960M | 16GB DDR4-2400MHz | 1 TB Toshiba SSD| Dell XPS 15
1. Orcs and Humans are the centerpiece races since that is what Warcraft started out with. It does not mean they are a majority of their faction, and I personally have never read anything that has stated that.
2. I have no idea what you are referring to as far as NPCs denoting an accurate census of a population. I know many times an NPCs contain more opinions then facts in their text.
3. NA
4. The sub races, including many orcs, are united under the Horde, because they are the Horde. It's Garrosh and his Kor'kron elite that have gone astray. I just simply disagree with your statement that the Horde lost the majority of their war power. It's definitely not as consolidated as it should be, which would give the Alliance the upper hand for awhile, but the Horde aren't the only ones that have lost key figures, military might, and population throughout this expansion and before. Wrathion while isn't infallible, as evidence by being upset that things didn't go as he planned; just because he says something doesn't make it true.
5. I agree, except sometimes that logical thinking and "facts" turn out to be more opinions.
Official timeline puts a year between each expansion. Doesn't mention time between Wrath to Cata.
According to Kosak, Cata happens 7 years after the Battle for Hyjal, putting it 1 year after WotLK.
Then DW death to end of MoP is 1 year.Originally Posted by Dave Kosak
Originally Posted by Chris Metzen
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guess i misread that tweet. still that only adds on an extra year. 5 years isnt enough to rebuild an entire species
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its been stated many times that humans and orcs make up the bulk the alliance and horde military.
the majority of playable races are all nearly extinct.
on the alliance side there is
worgen
draenei
and gnomes
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If I remember correctly, it was pretty much Garrosh who has thrown so much damage and war at the Alliance. There was a point when Varian and Thrall were almost going to agree peace with both Factions.
So pretty much killing Garrosh is the best thing Varian can do.
The reason is simple: World of Warcraft. If 5.4 was a book and they were telling an amazing story for 5.5 5.6 5.7, they could make it as you want.
One word: Metzen.
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You must not know much about history. There have been plenty of times through out history where one country, nation or race has let another continue to exist even though they where just fighting. Also the alliance letting the horde get a new warchief might just be the alliance side of the raid, The horde side they might not have the choice. As for the sucking up to the alliance, no one likes to be in the dog house but perhaps Varien wanted to show he has changed as a leader. No matter how big or small the situation is a good person is a person who lets others live their lives.