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    Quote Originally Posted by Heladys View Post
    Unfair? Are you trying to bring this full-circle to the "you poor bro" days again, because money is easily accessible - go earn some.
    I got mine for free

    ez

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alastaircrawly View Post
    I don't go down alleyways at night.
    Because you're afraid of democracy except when you're wielding it. Gotcha.

  3. #2443
    Quote Originally Posted by Allarius View Post
    You seem to be under the mistaken notion that the cash shop wouldn't be there if you keep those people out of your runs, or if by kicking them out they'll suddenly stop using it. You're just making them mad at you.

    Blizzard isn't going to respond to bullying. No company would respond to such low tactics.
    Well, since you don't want to raid with them, them being mad at you is just fine. Plus there is always the unsub button, but that's on monthly basis. With only 5.4 left and expansion far away it's not that difficult to unsub in protest.

    And while companies may not response to bullying ... they sure as hell respond to losing money.

    What's the worst that can happen to you ...

  4. #2444
    Quote Originally Posted by koawinter View Post
    And that's bad? Isn't the point of all this to create commotion?
    You want to create a commotion that shows what the problem is. The only thing you're portraying is intolerance and immaturity by failing to use an appropriate or even relevant means.

  5. #2445
    Quote Originally Posted by Heladys View Post
    Don't worry, my fancy transmog hat keeps it firmly in place.

    Variety is the spice of life, and if blizz was a fast food joint they'd be charging you for the condiments.

    That is a more apt comparison than all your analogies combined lawl.

  6. #2446
    Quote Originally Posted by Heladys View Post
    No it's not. Lobbyists are mercenaries trying to buy influence.

    There's no influence to be had in buying a vanity transmog item. Nor is there any principled stand to be made by disrupting the gameplay of those who do.

    Chatting them up and expressing your displeasure and why you feel that way is totally cool. Do that!
    Buying a vanity transmog item is "voting with your wallet" that you will pay extra for items outside of your subscription. It has been repeated over and over again in these threads that this is why people are angry and taking it out on people who have these helms, money influences Blizzard to continue on this path, and some people do not agree with that path.

    It just seems like this argument will forever go into circles, repeating the same things over and over again. No offense, but it just doesn't seem like some people can even understand why people are mad over this and just keep saying things like "You're just mad that you can't afford it" or stuff like that.
    Last edited by Tempeste; 2013-07-20 at 09:12 PM.

  7. #2447
    Quote Originally Posted by macdisciple View Post
    So what? It impacts you, not at all.
    does it impact you when someone kicks ppl like that? dont think so

  8. #2448
    Quote Originally Posted by Donair View Post
    Excellent. Keep it up folks! Our message will be heard loud and clear. To all those who have supported the cash shop and purchased these helms: you and your wallets will thank us when the dust settles and future cosmetic items are made available in game as part of your monthly sub.

    You may be willing to throw your money out the window and support bad business but this is for your own good.

    If these children can't be responsible with their money and Blizzard can't be responsible with their greed then it's time to intercede. Keep up the kicks guys and make sure to be as vocal as possible about why you're doing so! In game and on the forums. Blizzard will get the message.
    Exactly, we're doing these people a service. They lack the self control to responsibly spend their money. These items used to be included in the subscription. Now they're being sold for extra, so if we put a stop to this Blizzard will go back to giving us these items for "free". As the way it should be. You'll thank us one day guys.

  9. #2449
    Quote Originally Posted by Lomak View Post
    Here's an analogy for you.

    Variety is the spice of life, and if blizz was a fast food joint they'd be charging you for the condiments.

    That is a more apt comparison that all your shitty analogies combined lawl.
    If Blizz charging me for condiments bothered me, I'd either make do without, or eat somewhere else. I wouldn't spend my time ranting and raving in the dining area before dropping a load on other people's meals.

    You chose a different path.

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    If I find out someone was kicked for having the helm i'm going to troll the living crap out of the group until it's over. I will do everything in my power to ensure that LFR/dungeon does not finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heladys View Post
    Unfair? Are you trying to bring this full-circle to the "you poor bro" days again, because money is easily accessible - go earn some.
    What difference does that make? Just because I can buy the items doesn't make it ethically acceptable if I did, it's still unfair.

  12. #2452
    Quote Originally Posted by Lei Shi View Post
    There is no value in people who think it would be acceptable to use cash to gain things in a game. These kinda people are far worse than any AFKer.
    You pretty much just described every single person who plays a subscription game. Or is the subscription fee you pay in order to play the game and gain virtual loot not real money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heladys View Post
    Because you're afraid of democracy except when you're wielding it. Gotcha.
    Rofl Called Street smarts. I simply was explaining that getting kicked from lfr takes the majority to vote you out because of this The VK is a democracy.

    The alleyway was a bad analogy

  14. #2454
    Quote Originally Posted by Tempeste View Post
    Buying a vanity transmog items is "voting with your wallet" that you will pay extra for items outside of your subscription. It has been repeated over and over again in these threads that this is why people are angry and taking it out on people who have these helms, money influences Blizzard to continue on this path, and some people do not agree with that path.
    Repeating it over and over doesn't make it right. There is a genuinely worthy discussion to be had about the dangers of a cash store should blizz go down certain paths with it.

    They haven't yet so there's no reason for the behavior now.

    The people partaking haven't obtained any benefit, so there's no reason to mess with them.

    If you wanted reasonable discussion, it's there to be had.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alastaircrawly View Post
    Rofl Called Street smarts. I simply was explaining that getting kicked from lfr takes the majority to vote you out because of this The VK is a democracy
    So are the alleyway thugs taking your wallet, in your definition of democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shudder View Post
    Exactly, we're doing these people a service. They lack the self control to responsibly spend their money. These items used to be included in the subscription. Now they're being sold for extra, so if we put a stop to this Blizzard will go back to giving us these items for "free". As the way it should be. You'll thank us one day guys.
    I'll do what I want with my money as will others or I can get my shit for free which was the helm. You aren't doing anyone a service LOL

    what a joke

    Well thank you alright. Well thank you for helping blizzard modify the kick tool because you thought you were making a difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drusin View Post
    If I find out someone was kicked for having the helm i'm going to troll the living crap out of the group until it's over. I will do everything in my power to ensure that LFR/dungeon does not finish.

    Than they kick you too problem sloved

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    Quote Originally Posted by Anarchor View Post
    Blizzard can do what they want. It's not gonna stop me from protesting their itemshop. If they start banning people for it, then they'll just lose even more subscribers, considering how very disgruntled many people already seem to be.
    Yeah, you sound like you'd be a real loss to the WoW community.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boubouille View Post
    You can add other stuff and still called it a grilled cheese, it's an american thing, but getting butt hurt over it means you have way too much free time and you should be using it to be making more grilled cheese.

  18. #2458
    Like I said before, it's asshole behavior and not the right way to approach this, but I really do wonder - what is? Blizzard claims that they put the items there because of player feedback (right..) yet now, the forums ARE actually on fire about these items, their ridiculous prices etc. If they are indeed taking notes, then there will be an announcement about changes to this, if not, then I will start seeing Blizzard as a newborn monster that disregards player feedback and just does whatever the hell it feels like. I'm sure the psychopathic suits at EA would approve of this existence, and the gaming industry will just keep getting worse and worse thanks to companies like these.

    Anyway, this whole thing is saddening, and it sucks how the community is getting divided because of it, but what where they expecting when they implemented such a shop into a Pay to Play game? It will keep getting worse as they are adding new things, the stigma will keep growing.

  19. #2459
    Quote Originally Posted by Nivis View Post
    5 people are not the majority. 5 people are necessary to initiate the vote.
    The majority then clicks 'Yes' to get rid of the votekick-window in the middle of their screen.

    That's a huge difference.
    If you find 5 people to start votekicks because of "LOL because I can", most of them probably will pass too.
    Nope, sorry there cubby. It takes the majority of people to click yes to the vote kick. So if you were in there, and you had a bunch of your little cash shop pro buddies, you would be the majority. That means the person wouldn't be kicked. Understand now?

  20. #2460
    Quote Originally Posted by Heladys View Post
    If Blizz charging me for condiments bothered me, I'd either make do without, or eat somewhere else. I wouldn't spend my time ranting and raving in the dining area before dropping a load on other people's meals.

    You chose a different path.
    Not dropping a load on your meal, just making you sit at a different table to eat it. Prob bro?

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