Marte Deborah Delelven Pardoned by the Emir of Dubai and Free to Go Home

[TheGravemind]

http://translate.google.com/translat...3.html&act=url

It seems as though the international pressure was enough for the Emir, Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, to specifically pardon the woman involved in this incident, effectively liberating her from her sentenced jail time. She is now free to go home.

I feel as though it's my responsibility to clear up a lot of misinformation that has been present with this case:

- She was not sentenced to jail for rape.
- Rape is a crime in Dubai. Its punishment is typically execution.
- Sex outside of marriage is also a crime in Dubai. The only time this is not a crime is if you're raped.
- She initially claimed to be raped, but also stated that she apparently had no memory of it.
- She later changed her story and stated that the sex was consensual, in an effort to have the entire fiasco disappear, as her employer had advised, but instead, this meant that she was then committing two other crimes: false testimony and sex outside of marriage, both of which are crimes in Dubai.
- In addition to this, she was found to have consumed alcohol by the authorities there, and this is a crime in Dubai.
- She was then sentenced to jail (for 13 months I believe) for illegal consumption of alcohol, sex outside of marriage and false testimony.
- The person who allegedly raped her was also sentenced to 13 months in jail for consumption of alcohol and sex outside of marriage.

So, in the end, no, she was NEVER sentenced to jail for being raped.

case closed, good night

Edit: on a tangential note, that guy who was videotaped beating an Indian driver in Dubai was also sentenced to a year in prison, although the person videotaping it was sentenced to 2 years in prison (which is obviously a draconian thing.)

[Deleted]

http://translate.google.com/translat...3.html&act=url

It seems as though the international pressure was enough for the Emir, Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, to specifically pardon the woman involved in this incident, effectively liberating her from her sentenced jail time. She is now free to go home.

I feel as though it's my responsibility to clear up a lot of misinformation that has been present with this case:

- She was not sentenced to jail for rape.
- Rape is a crime in Dubai. Its punishment is typically execution.
- Sex outside of marriage is also a crime in Dubai. The only time this is not a crime is if you're raped.
- She initially claimed to be raped, but also stated that she apparently had no memory of it.
- She later changed her story and stated that the sex was consensual, in an effort to have the entire fiasco disappear, as her employer had advised, but instead, this meant that she was then committing two other crimes: false testimony and sex outside of marriage, both of which are crimes in Dubai.
- In addition to this, she was found to have consumed alcohol by the authorities there, and this is a crime in Dubai.
- She was then sentenced to jail (for 13 months I believe) for illegal consumption of alcohol, sex outside of marriage and false testimony.
- The person who allegedly raped her was also sentenced to 13 months in jail for consumption of alcohol and sex outside of marriage.

So, in the end, no, she was NOT ever sentenced to jail for being raped.

case closed, good night

So she was a liar then? Shows how quickly people can jump to the wrong conclusion, even so, she was a fool for traveling there while being ignorant of their laws.

[TheGravemind]

So she was a liar then? Shows how quickly people can jump to the wrong conclusion, even so, she was a fool for traveling there while being ignorant of their laws.

I wouldn't say she was a liar with malicious intent, but she seems to had just incidentally lied in order to clear up the whole mess, so I suppose she technically lied. It's alarming how many people can quickly jump on the "JAILED FOR RAPE" bandwagon, though, without having a firm grasp on the facts first.

[EngineeredDelusion]

Well, now their actions don't seem as unreasonable as they did when I had thought she was simply jailed for being raped.

+1 for clarification.

[Deleted]

Well, she could've been on a sextourism, it is quite common in pre-revolution Egypt and Dubai etc. (expensive escort etc)
I have heard stories, whether false or truth i leave that to you, that there are quite a lot of women and obv men, that go/went on such vacations only to get laid.
Well most of them are stories, those I have proof of are archived in the crime/law dept of my university.

[Deleted]

Well, she could've been on a sextourism, it is quite common in pre-revolution Egypt and Dubai etc. (expensive escort etc)
I have heard stories, whether false or truth i leave that to you, that there are quite a lot of women and obv men, that go/went on such vacations only to get laid.
Well most of them are stories, those I have proof of are archived in the crime/law dept of my university.

Since when is this sort of thing a crime?

[Durandro]

Confusion can happen considering it is a crime in Saudi Arabia, and horrendous things happen in other Islamic countries. Dubai was supposed to be one of the more progressive nations, hense the backlash.

Of course, still jailing people for having sex outside of marriage is a bit shitty. But so is accusing someone of rape when they didn't do it.

[Deleted]

Since when is this sort of thing a crime?

in most muslim countries it is

[TheGravemind]

Since when is this sort of thing a crime?

It's a crime in most Middle Eastern countries, including Dubai. If you don't like it, the smart thing to do would be to, uhm, NOT GO THERE. It's somewhat unreasonable to demand that a country change their laws simply because you do not like it.

[Deleted]

Since when is this sort of thing a crime?

It's a crime in the Middle east, where she went.

[Deleted]

If I was the Emir I wouldn't gave pardon to her, because law should be equal for everyone, and she already knew that sex outside marriage is a crime in Dubai before going there. Old discussions about this case looks funny now, because everyone trusted her aprioristically.

[TheGravemind]

Still could give less of a shit about their backwards laws. Never going there in my life for good reasons.

Egypt, prior to the revolution at least, was one of the more sane Middle Eastern countries. I haven't personally been there, but people I know who have all reported pleasant experiences (again, prior to the revolution at least.)

[Deleted]

If I was the Emir I wouldn't gave pardon to her, because law should be equal for everyone, and she already knew that sex outside marriage is a crime in Dubai before going there. Old discussions about this case looks funny now, because everyone trusted her aprioristically.

yeah, but do the emir or the ruling family respect the law?
With their orgies and illegal activities, heads should've rolled a long time ago

[Spectral]

Shows how quickly people can jump to the wrong conclusion

Who jumped to the wrong conclusion? The UAE's laws are still backward and barbaric.

[Deleted]

You know, it's good to be the King.

[TheGravemind]

You know, it's good to be the King.

Until the peasants wake up.

[Zangeiti]

http://translate.google.com/translat...3.html&act=url

It seems as though the international pressure was enough for the Emir, Mohammed bin Rashid Al Maktoum, to specifically pardon the woman involved in this incident, effectively liberating her from her sentenced jail time. She is now free to go home.

I feel as though it's my responsibility to clear up a lot of misinformation that has been present with this case:

- She was not sentenced to jail for rape.
- Rape is a crime in Dubai. Its punishment is typically execution.
- Sex outside of marriage is also a crime in Dubai. The only time this is not a crime is if you're raped.
- She initially claimed to be raped, but also stated that she apparently had no memory of it.
- She later changed her story and stated that the sex was consensual, in an effort to have the entire fiasco disappear, as her employer had advised, but instead, this meant that she was then committing two other crimes: false testimony and sex outside of marriage, both of which are crimes in Dubai.
- In addition to this, she was found to have consumed alcohol by the authorities there, and this is a crime in Dubai.
- She was then sentenced to jail (for 13 months I believe) for illegal consumption of alcohol, sex outside of marriage and false testimony.
- The person who allegedly raped her was also sentenced to 13 months in jail for consumption of alcohol and sex outside of marriage.

So, in the end, no, she was NEVER sentenced to jail for being raped.

case closed, good night

Edit: on a tangential note, that guy who was videotaped beating an Indian driver in Dubai was also sentenced to a year in prison, although the person videotaping it was sentenced to 2 years in prison (which is obviously a draconian thing.)

So she lied... Isnt lieing in Dubai a crime. I mean its a millionaires playground. Because they have money.

[BloodGutter]

Actually, the rapist was also given a pardon:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3633809.html

The alleged attacker, identified as a 33-year-old Sudanese man, was charged with the same offenses and received a 13-month sentence. He also cleared by a pardon, according to Dalelv.

I definitely don't agree with the decision to let the rapist go free but I'm guessing because it's the Holy Month of Ramadan they're just giving everyone a get out of jail free card (they are known to let criminals jailed out during this month as a showing of forgiveness during Ramadan)

And yes, sex outside of marriage is a crime but it is not strictly enforced. You think the city with the biggest nightlife in the Middle East is going to have clubbers paranoid of hooking up with random people because they're going to get arrested? The law is only brought up when cases are brought to the police's attention.

And to clear up this silly notion that if you're a foreign female in Dubai and you get raped, you will get jailed, here are numerous cases of rape in Dubai that have convicted the rapist and not charged or jailed the victims:

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/cr...rape-1.1080148
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/cr...tion-1.1027094
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/cr...-rape-1.971645
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/cr...-girl-1.749774
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/ge...sault-1.383095
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/cr...women-1.237914
http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-n...ubai-apartment
http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-n...ed-dubai-women
http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-n...or-three-years
http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-n...r-terms-upheld
http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-n...entence-upheld
http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-n...is-accomplices

I live in this city, and it has it's flaws, and I have no problem hearing them in a constructive matter, but if you're going to blindly hate and talk shit without backing it up then please get educated. I have no tolerance for ignorance. Mishandled cases by government and police officials happen all over the world, including first world countries. That in no way defends this case and I really hope all the officials involved have learned their lesson.

[TheGravemind]

Actually, the rapist was also given a pardon:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3633809.html



I definitely don't agree with the decision to let the rapist go free but I'm guessing because it's the Holy Month of Ramadan they're just giving everyone a get out of jail free card (they are known to let criminals jailed out during this month as a showing of forgiveness during Ramadan)

And yes, sex outside of marriage is a crime but it is not strictly enforced. You think the city with the biggest nightlife in the Middle East is going to have clubbers paranoid of hooking up with random people because they're going to get arrested? The law is only brought up when cases are brought to the police's attention.

And to clear up this silly notion that if you're a foreign female in Dubai and you get raped, you will get jailed, here are numerous cases of rape in Dubai that have convicted the rapist and not charged or jailed the victims:

http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/cr...rape-1.1080148
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/cr...tion-1.1027094
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/cr...-rape-1.971645
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/cr...-girl-1.749774
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/ge...sault-1.383095
http://gulfnews.com/news/gulf/uae/cr...women-1.237914
http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-n...ubai-apartment
http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-n...ed-dubai-women
http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-n...or-three-years
http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-n...r-terms-upheld
http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-n...entence-upheld
http://www.thenational.ae/news/uae-n...is-accomplices

I live in this city, and it has it's flaws, and I have no problem hearing them in a constructive matter, but if you're going to blindly hate and talk shit without backing it up then please get educated. I have no tolerance for ignorance. Mishandled cases by government and police officials happen all over the world, including first world countries. That in no way defends this case and I really hope all the officials involved have learned their lesson.

I was under the impression that Beirut had the biggest nightlife out of all cities within the Middle Easts, is that no longer true?

[BloodGutter]

I was under the impression that Beirut had the biggest nightlife out of all cities within the Middle Easts, is that no longer true?

Beirut probably does, but you know how unstable Lebanon can be at times and that scares off a lot of people.

Regardless, it is a cultural hotspot for people of all cultures and nationalities, and nobody I know who goes clubbing here is paranoid about getting arrested by the police for hooking up with people they aren't married to.