Well Ra-den is a three phased fight. on P1 you have Vita and Anima phase and then there is P2 at 40%. I think Blizzard intended that you would take Vita first and stay there untill you need to reset your debuffs and go to Anima phase ( which in my opinion seems to be lot harder than Vita) and stay there for x amount of time. Problem was that you could go to Anima and then straight back to Vita by moving boss towards Anima orb and then eating Vita orb after that. So basically you are ignoring 1/3 of the whole fight. I'm not saying even if this couldn't be ignored the fight would be actually harder than Lei shen.
Somewhat I consider this being in same category as few of the first Will of the emperor HC kills. Guilds stacked mages who cc'd little adds for whole fight. Making the fight revolve around killing big adds and soaking balls from them. Makes it a lot easier, doesnt it ?
Last edited by mmoc8b013c39a0; 2013-07-24 at 11:27 AM.
Tried doing this boss properly yet?
He calls himself and the second group "semi-hardcore", not the entire guild. Raiding 2-3 days per week is pretty much "semi-hardcore".Originally Posted by det View Post
Top 25 guild calls itself "semi-hardcore" - well that is interesting. Killed after boss is out ..what? 10 weeks? With the second group. 15 attempts. After exactly 662 other guilds have done it. Your definition of faceroll?
What is this? I don't even.....
BTT: was very disappointed after 150 wipes on lei shen to kill ra-den on fourth pull, anyways a good source for tf gear and runestones(alts, slackers, bad luck bobs approve)
Okay, whatever, the boss had an exploit in it that became "the way" to kill it, because Blizzard didn't want to hotfix a limited-attempts boss.
So, you're fighting a known gimped boss that the game designer decided to leave gimped, and you're telling us, it's gimped.
Gotcha.
You shan't say anything, for thy lied.
1. yeh,,Bonus boss being easy..yay..
2. no not everyone and there mother will see Ra'den, I know full well i won't be seeing it untill I immensly over-gear it..
3. no Ra'den was never supposedly to be really hard.. it's a bonus boss.
this was taken at 2013-07-24 13:46 GTM +1
Last edited by Kharli; 2013-07-24 at 04:24 PM.
Oh, GEEZ, THAT'S the definition of hardcore?
95% of the hardcores out there feel like slackers now thanks to you.
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Yeah, Raden was supposed to be very hard. He just wasn't due to implementation problems that Blizzard decided to let lie.
If you think they only raid those times then you're terribly wrong haha.Scrubbusters had #8 world kill on Lei Shen, so they're basically a top 10 guild. They raid 19.00-23.00 or something like that. I would call that semi-hardcore. Granted, they're among the best players in the game, but I see a hardcore group as people who dedicated whole days to the raids until they've downed the bosses. Just because they're more skilled doesn't mean they are hardcore.
Boomkin/Mage/Whatever in Fatsharkyes
I think xanzul nailed it in his post, looking forward to see OP's response.
The fight is supposed to be easier, and it also ended up being easier than what blizzard probably had intended with all guilds only sitting in Vita-phase the entire fight.
The fight is a joke compared to lei shen, but of course it should be super easy when your killing it in probably 545 avg ilvl.
Yet another pointless thread about how easy ra-den is, maybe try to read smth b4 u create another pointless thread next time.