Ark. district arming more than 20 teachers, staff

[Hogmanlolz]

http://news.yahoo.com/ark-district-a...070909074.html

I think this is the right thing to do. Locking doors and turning off lights won't help much. Thoughts?

[Garnier Fructis]

Only if the ones being armed undergo lots of psychological evaluation first. I've had teachers in middle and high school where, if they had guns I wouldn't walk within 10 miles of those schools. Teachers go through much more stress than your average student, and if they can't handle the heat I sure as hell don't want them with weapons.

[Templar 331]

Armed security guards, yes. Armed teachers, no.

[Raintola]

Armed security guards, yes. Armed teachers, no.

What's the difference? Being a "security guard" doesn't make someone any more or less susceptible to going postal due to stress/whatever.

[Itisamuh]

Armed security guards, yes. Armed teachers, no.

This would be better, but I also have no problem with teachers who know how to handle a gun being allowed to have one. Many schools around where I live have a resource officer, but one person can hardly protect the whole school.

[obdigore]

What's the difference? Being a "security guard" doesn't make someone any more or less susceptible to going postal due to stress/whatever.

I assume a security guard would be trained on when and how to use their weapon and when not to, and suspicious things to look for. A teacher is trained to teach.

[fengosa]

Why not just arm the students? Seems unfair that they're at the mercy of a teacher who may or may not shoot them when they're completely defenseless.

[Rukentuts]

Yeah, this is going to end real well.

[Aezral]

What's the difference? Being a "security guard" doesn't make someone any more or less susceptible to going postal due to stress/whatever.

The difference is level of interaction with students. I don't think I would have felt great knowing the teacher was packing heat when I was in school. Though, disciplinary issues might decrease though lol.

[obdigore]

Yeah, this is going to end real well.

Clearly the answer to gun violence is MOAR GUNS!

[Kaleredar]

So now people know a location that there are a whole host of guns to be stolen... a location that goes unguarded at night and over summer, spring, and winter breaks?

Great.

I also can't wait to hear rationalization when a kid manages to get one of these guns, or a teacher accidentally shoots a student. I guess those are just the "necessary risks" in keeping guns unregulated?

[This name sucks]

So now people know a location that there are a whole host of guns to be stolen... a location that goes unguarded at night and over summer, spring, and winter breaks?

Great.

I also can't wait to hear rationalization when a kid manages to get one of these guns, or a teacher accidentally shoots a student. I guess those are just the "necessary risks" when it comes to keeping guns unregulated?

He was coming right for me! He had 3 freshly sharpened pencils in one hand!

[Templar 331]

What's the difference? Being a "security guard" doesn't make someone any more or less susceptible to going postal due to stress/whatever.

Job qualifications and responsibilities. I'd rather have a trained guard guarding children with a gun than a teacher trained to teach guarding children with a gun. I know a teacher can be trained to use a gun and how to act during a situation, but their primary role in schools is to teach. I'd rather it stay like that and have someone who's primary role is to guard guard.

[LilSaihah]

Why not just arm the students? Seems unfair that they're at the mercy of a teacher who may or may not shoot them when they're completely defenseless.

Probably because students aren't 18 which has the obvious problem of children being dumbasses.

I dunno whether giving teachers guns is the best solution but I think it's better than no solution at all. I'm assuming they're being given proper weapons training and having some pretty thorough background/brain checks.

[Haplo17]

What's the difference? Being a "security guard" doesn't make someone any more or less susceptible to going postal due to stress/whatever.

True but it at least implies a higher standard of training and familiarity with weapons and situations where they may need to be used.

[Wells]

http://news.yahoo.com/ark-district-a...070909074.html

I think this is the right thing to do. Locking doors and turning off lights won't help much. Thoughts?

Actually I'd trust metal doors and bullet proof glass far more when it comes to stopping a bullet than a math teacher with a 9mm.

Places of learning shouldn't be rocking firearms.

[Kaleredar]

I dunno whether giving teachers guns is the best solution but I think it's better than no solution at all. I'm assuming they're being given proper weapons training and having some pretty thorough background/brain checks.

Well, people have already failed in providing ANY adequate solution when they say "well, people are going to try and murder us with guns" as the status quo that needs to be adjusted to, rather than the god damn problem itself.

[Vober]

Long as they are trained on how to use the gun and can pull the trigger at the time needed (hopefully that never has to happen) I have no problem.

[Notos]

I went to school in Arkansas for 2 years...and this scares me.

[LilSaihah]

Well, people have already failed in providing ANY adequate solution when they say "well, people are going to try and murder us with guns" as the status quo that needs to be adjusted to, rather than the god damn problem itself.

Blah blah criminals going to get guns anyway, blah blah give the good guys guns, blah blah.